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The Ramones’ “Road to Ruin”

Discussion in 'Music to Your Ears' started by TeleAndSG, Nov 15, 2017.

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    TeleAndSG

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    They are very popular in many Latin American countries.
     
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    Speaking of “Year Zero”, I also bought my copy of their debut album. It’s a “gatefold sleeve” CD reissue. No bonus tracks, no booklet with essays nor lyrics. And imo, they are not necessary in this case. Now I’m really convinced: I will buy my copies of Leave Home and Rocket to Russia pretty soon.
     
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    Yep. I had Eno’s statement in mind when I wrote my post. :D
     
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    I bought these two albums the summer I turned 17. (London Calling had just dropped that year, Road to Ruin was about a year old.) I had bought my first guitar the summer before and abandoned it. These albums changed everything! I’ve been playing ever since.
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    The Clash were very versatile. Either Joe Strummer, or Mick Jones, said that by the time they were touring to promote Give them enough rope, they felt their music was becoming a “nagging wife”, so they changed their direction on London calling. I picked again my classical guitar in ‘93 after I discovered The Extreme Metal bands that were selling a lot of records at that time (Death, Carcass, Entombed, Morbid Angel, Sepultura). Of corse, trying to play that kind of music on a classical guitar is a terrible idea :lol: so I bought my first electric guitar soon afterwards.
     
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    credit on albums as richard hell and dee dee ramone writers...but dee dee wrote most of it

    i like on the ramones version one line is

    somebody called me on the phone/they said hey is arty home

    the heartbreakers version goes like this

    somebody called me on the phone/they said hey is dee dee home

    another difference is the title of the song

    ramones - chinese rock

    heartbreakers - chinese rocks
     
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    music isn't too commercial now?

    the only "summer of love" music i really care about are the stooges, the mc5, and bands that were on nuggets.
     
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    Great album, as were the three that preceded it. Things got dodgier after Spector showed up.

    I recall Christgau writing that the first few Ramones albums attempted to see how much you could strip out and still have rock and roll; Road to Ruin attempted to see how much you could add back in and still have Ramones.

    Saw them first at the Whisky A Go Go, trading off headlining with the Flamin Groovies for several nights, and a bunch more times after that. Sadly missed out on a chance to be in the concert at the end of Rock n Roll High School.
     
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    Joan channels The Ramones with a cameo by Joey. I've always liked this song, silly as it is.

     
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    What you hear today cannot even be called music. Songs without chords, without real instruments, just the bare bone basic notes through a laptop. I like the Ramones, The VU, The Stooges, and the San Francisco Bay sound of the 60’s. In fact, I bought The Ramones first LP, and White Light/White Heat, together with the first album by Big Brother and the Holding Company (featuring Janis Joplin, IMO the only band as loud and raw as their frontman). As usual, people focused too much their “lack” of musical skills, and they missed the big picture: Janis Joplin and Big Brother were meant to be together. They (and Cream, Hendrix, the Airplane, The Dead) played a louder, harder and heavier brand of psychedelic rock called “acid rock” (with lots of feedback an improvised jams), that is considered by some critics to be one of the direct precursors of Metal.
     
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    Their first album is ... well, what can I say that hasn’t been said already?. I don’t know why on earth I waited 30 years to buy it.
     
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    Thought I’d pop back in and drop this: IMG_3473.JPG
     
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    They were fun.
    Glad they were here.
     
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    Is it true that Phil Spector brandished a gun and basically held the Ramones hostage in the studio, or is that purely apocryphal? I don’t know that I’ve ever read anything to confirm that story.
     
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    Thanks. You too :D. This is one of the reasons why I enjoy their music so much: they had sense of humor.
     
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    Apparently it’s a legend. But they never denied that his perfectionism drove them crazy.
     
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    love it!

    also...one of us...gooble gobble gooble gobble!
     
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    Pretty much any story involving Spector and a gun seems plausible.
     
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    As far as I can recall the story is in Commado, Johnny's autobiography. It's been a few years since I read it though, I could be wrong. Just because it's in a book doesn't necessarily make it true either.

    It certainly does!
     
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    The Ramones found me at an early age and NOTHING has been the same since.There are bands you love and then there are bands that change your life forever. Getting to see them is one of my most treasured memories.
     
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