The pitfalls of playing for seniors

LGOberean

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I think I've mentioned before here in BDC that I volunteer at a local retirement community. I do a 90-minute show for them every Thursday, so I was there yesterday. My wife came, too, and she used my phone to take video footage of each song.

But it may very well be that none of the footage is usable.

I say that not because my playing and/or singing wasn't the best. (What else is new? :oops::rolleyes:) I say that because of the distractions that can arise when you play in such facilities. The reality is I play to an audience in a community where the "younger" residents are basically my age.

Many of them are not comfortable with my volume levels. Not because I refuse to play any other way than too damn loud. Not because their hearing is so acute. But because their hearing aids perceive me as too loud. So I turn down. Even then, some of them won't come into the multipurpose room (MPR) where I play to hear me, but will sit in the seats in the lobby/foyer just outside the MPR. It's too big a room with too many people to play the gig unplugged, so each week is a balancing act.

(Oh, BTW, my rig is my Logan Custom acoustic/electric tele style plugged into my Fishman Loudbox Mini Charge amp.)

Another factor that came make for a distraction in the room and can actually ruin an otherwise useable video is that they will talk to each other while I'm performing. Of course, that happens at other gigs like at a coffee shop. But because seniors usually have their hearing issues, they don't know how loud they're talking, so often their conversational volume competes with the levels I set on my amp for voice and guitar. It's distracting, but not too distracting in the room, so I soldier on. However, it sure can be a major distraction in a video.

Closely related to this, they have the ringer on their respective cell phones set loud! And they don't mute their phones when attending such performances. And when it rings, they answer it. (My generation and before didn't grow up letting the phone go to voicemail.) And when they answer it, they speak even louder than their conversational volume.

Another distraction: it's not uncommon that a resident will be dealing with a cough, whether because of some ailment or just being old and phlegmy. They can't help it, of course, but it's still a major distraction to singing in the room, never mind hearing it on video.

I listened last night to each of the videos Beth recorded during my 90-minute show. Quite a few I've already deleted, because they were basically unusable, for one or more of the issues listed above. If I do decide to post any of the remaining vids to my YT channel, I'll share the links here.

Okay, rant over. And I don't really mean this post as a rant. To me a rant is an expression of some level of anger or bitterness, and I don't feel that towards these people. It just is what it is, the pitfalls of playing for seniors.
 

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Im sorry to laugh but my last times in one of those places was visiting my mother when I stuck her there for a month so I could make her home safer.
One visit she brings me to meet an old feller who can barely speak coherently and says he needs his violin tuned up.
OK not a euphemism, he had an old fiddle and was too far gone to tune it up.
(Im gettin old too, have I told this story before? Yep!)

I tuned it up for him and he went stumble dancing into the communiy room playing Danny Boy.
Not sure any of the others noticed.

Yeah thank you for struggling though those folks foibles, hope somebody does that same for me if I live long enough to need a care facility like that.
 

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I think I've mentioned before here in BDC that I volunteer at a local retirement community. I do a 90-minute show for them every Thursday, so I was there yesterday. My wife came, too, and she used my phone to take video footage of each song.

But it may very well be that none of the footage is usable.

I say that not because my playing and/or singing wasn't the best. (What else is new? :oops::rolleyes:) I say that because of the distractions that can arise when you play in such facilities. The reality is I play to an audience in a community where the "younger" residents are basically my age.

Many of them are not comfortable with my volume levels. Not because I refuse to play any other way than too damn loud. Not because their hearing is so acute. But because their hearing aids perceive me as too loud. So I turn down. Even then, some of them won't come into the multipurpose room (MPR) where I play to hear me, but will sit in the seats in the lobby/foyer just outside the MPR. It's too big a room with too many people to play the gig unplugged, so each week is a balancing act.

(Oh, BTW, my rig is my Logan Custom acoustic/electric tele style plugged into my Fishman Loudbox Mini Charge amp.)

Another factor that came make for a distraction in the room and can actually ruin an otherwise useable video is that they will talk to each other while I'm performing. Of course, that happens at other gigs like at a coffee shop. But because seniors usually have their hearing issues, they don't know how loud they're talking, so often their conversational volume competes with the levels I set on my amp for voice and guitar. It's distracting, but not too distracting in the room, so I soldier on. However, it sure can be a major distraction in a video.

Closely related to this, they have the ringer on their respective cell phones set loud! And they don't mute their phones when attending such performances. And when it rings, they answer it. (My generation and before didn't grow up letting the phone go to voicemail.) And when they answer it, they speak even louder than their conversational volume.

Another distraction: it's not uncommon that a resident will be dealing with a cough, whether because of some ailment or just being old and phlegmy. They can't help it, of course, but it's still a major distraction to singing in the room, never mind hearing it on video.

I listened last night to each of the videos Beth recorded during my 90-minute show. Quite a few I've already deleted, because they were basically unusable, for one or more of the issues listed above. If I do decide to post any of the remaining vids to my YT channel, I'll share the links here.

Okay, rant over. And I don't really mean this post as a rant. To me a rant is an expression of some level of anger or bitterness, and I don't feel that towards these people. It just is what it is, the pitfalls of playing for seniors.
Smart observation re: hearing aids
My late mom had 'em and music (and conversations) were miserable at times.

Unsolicited recommendation that would consume a metric b*ttload of time: pre-concert hearing aid workshop?
This could involve learning which settings are ice-pick and which ones most closely reproduce music
YMMV
 

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Yeah, dude, forget the videos. It's a recipe for frustration, what's the point? I've played a few times at assisted living facilities, so I've seen what you have seen. Why complicate it? Have fun. I think it's a hoot; half the audience looks pissed off, the other half seem to be struggling to at least tolerate it. There's usually one or two people there that really enjoy it. I try to remember that I may represent their lost youth and frustration at being stuck in an old creaky body, so they sometimes have a cranky demeanor. Feel good that you are giving them some novelty in their day.
 

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Tell your wife to turn off the video recording. If you're doing a good deed for the seniors you'll be more than willing to put up with whatever comes with it. If you're playing an acoustic please note that drool can be wiped off the exterior of the body but can cause mold issues if it gets to the interior.
 

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Run a direct out to a separate audio recorder. Sync the audio and video later.

problem solved

Mostly I just show up and play. The only time anything ever gets recorded is when my wife comes with me. And I'm not so good with technology, editing and syncing. So my shows are really simple.
 

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I think I've mentioned before here in BDC that I volunteer at a local retirement community. I do a 90-minute show for them every Thursday, so I was there yesterday. My wife came, too, and she used my phone to take video footage of each song.

But it may very well be that none of the footage is usable.

I say that not because my playing and/or singing wasn't the best. (What else is new? :oops::rolleyes:) I say that because of the distractions that can arise when you play in such facilities. The reality is I play to an audience in a community where the "younger" residents are basically my age.

Many of them are not comfortable with my volume levels. Not because I refuse to play any other way than too damn loud. Not because their hearing is so acute. But because their hearing aids perceive me as too loud. So I turn down. Even then, some of them won't come into the multipurpose room (MPR) where I play to hear me, but will sit in the seats in the lobby/foyer just outside the MPR. It's too big a room with too many people to play the gig unplugged, so each week is a balancing act.

(Oh, BTW, my rig is my Logan Custom acoustic/electric tele style plugged into my Fishman Loudbox Mini Charge amp.)

Another factor that came make for a distraction in the room and can actually ruin an otherwise useable video is that they will talk to each other while I'm performing. Of course, that happens at other gigs like at a coffee shop. But because seniors usually have their hearing issues, they don't know how loud they're talking, so often their conversational volume competes with the levels I set on my amp for voice and guitar. It's distracting, but not too distracting in the room, so I soldier on. However, it sure can be a major distraction in a video.

Closely related to this, they have the ringer on their respective cell phones set loud! And they don't mute their phones when attending such performances. And when it rings, they answer it. (My generation and before didn't grow up letting the phone go to voicemail.) And when they answer it, they speak even louder than their conversational volume.

Another distraction: it's not uncommon that a resident will be dealing with a cough, whether because of some ailment or just being old and phlegmy. They can't help it, of course, but it's still a major distraction to singing in the room, never mind hearing it on video.

I listened last night to each of the videos Beth recorded during my 90-minute show. Quite a few I've already deleted, because they were basically unusable, for one or more of the issues listed above. If I do decide to post any of the remaining vids to my YT channel, I'll share the links here.

Okay, rant over. And I don't really mean this post as a rant. To me a rant is an expression of some level of anger or bitterness, and I don't feel that towards these people. It just is what it is, the pitfalls of playing for seniors.

 

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Run a direct out to a separate audio recorder. Sync the audio and video later.
Run a direct out to a Zoom Q2n-4K, and you don't even need to sync. It will video using the direct line in for audio.
 

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You'll have to figure out a technical solution to your dilemma, you're never going to get a bunch of seniors to agree to or on anything! It would be bad enough if it were just a bunch of old men, but old men, and old women, forget about it!
 

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Regarding the "roll with it' and "have fun with it" comments, I do, for the most part. I have volunteered in multiple such facilities over the last decade or so. Some venues I played weekly and others monthly, at a total of seven different establishments. But that was before the lockdowns, before everything shut down.

In January of 2021, this establishment (Garden Estates) called me back. I had played for them for about 9 years before March of 2020. Nine months or so later they had me come back, starting with outdoor shows, weather permitting. Eventually things moved back indoors.

So I've played this venue on a more or less weekly basis for about eleven years. They know me, both the institution and the residents. Also, I play the music they want to hear. I know a lot of what they know, and what I don't know, I'll learn. I never have a set list; I just start out with what I know they like, and take requests as they come. So it's a very interactive show, and that hour and a half on Thursdays goes by awful fast.
 

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As for playing completely unplugged, I can't. The room is too big for that (approx. 30' x 30'), and there are too many people in the room. Mine is not a loud rig. As I said in my OP, Logan Custom acoustic/eletric tele style + Fishman Loudbox Mini Charge.

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