The New Toyota Supra

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  1. Chuckster

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    This pre-production model showed up at our local car show yesterday. Very slick, BMW Z4 engine, but semi-automatic :oops:

    It was on loan to a local car columnist for the weekend and it drew quite a crowd.

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    Looks cool, but BMW engine = pass for me. That just means everything about maintaining it will be at least 2-3 times the price of a 'normal' vehicle.
     
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    Why in the world did Toyota go to BMW for an engine?
     
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    The vehicle is more BMW than Toyota.

    Ain't just the motor.

    I think we were too charitable in our reception of the joint project between Subaru and Toyota.

    I think the suits at Toyota got this all wrong, and they're about to be spanked. People who want a BMW will buy a BMW and people who want a Toyota will buy a real one.
     
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    :lol: Because it’s the best straight six in the world. Has been for about 50 years.
     
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    But the current Z4 motor is a turbo four, with an 8-speed tranny. What are they using?

    Edit: never mind, I see they are using the six.
     
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    There have been others.......just not as long maybe..like

    Ford 300 inline 6
    Chevy 250 inline 6
    Chrysler (AMC?) 242 inline 6 (4.0 Litre)
     
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    You're entitled to your opinion of course.
    Mine is that BMW is over-engineered and over-priced. I'll take a Chevy or Ford straight 6 over a BMW.
     
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    Cheers guys :)

    I should have been more clear. I think of best in terms of performance (which is what the Supra is about).

    Overall output, output/liter, races won, etc. Any discussion in racing world of best inline six is going to have BMW at the top, or at worst near.

    Or, we can do this. I’ll bring my straight from the factory in-line six BMW and you bring your choice of factory inline six auto or truck. Let’s race. Mine will do quarters in the 12s all day long and get around a road course pretty good too.
     
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    Wait a few months you can get a mid-engine American-made car for not too much more and as a bonus it won't look like a 2001 hot wheel

    EDIT: obligatory

     
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    Or maybe the Cherokee Jeep's 4 liter?
    Given the traction, it'll pull out the side of a wooden frame house :)
     
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    I just hope the lumpy nose looks better in person than in pictures.
     
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    My old '71 Challenger had a transmission like that but we called it an automatic.

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    That's not a need that's likely to ever come up, so that capability is not of value to me. Being able to speed through a twisty mountain 2-lane highway is.
     
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    This 71 Maverick runs 10's in the 1/4...

    Ford 300 inline...

    It's a bone stock bottom end (crank rods/pistons) that came out of a truck in a junkyard and the only thing done to it was a set of small block Chevy triple valve springs a new oil pump, timing set and a very modest turbo that I'm pretty sure was also salvaged from a junkyard.

    Not only is it dirt cheap, easily worked on/repaired... but its wicked fast for what it is.

    Hows that for ingenuity?
     
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    I'll keep my Porsche vs some weird looking Japanese thing. I used to love BMWs. My first car (that costed me $1000) was a 1977 320is with the posi rear. I loved that car. Had an E30 325 and realy liked it. Had an M3 and it was nothing but problems.

    IMHO they ain't what they used to be. I still usually buy German cars. My wife has a GLK-550, my kid I bought a GLK-350. Just can't get excited about BMWs anymore, kind of like how 95% of the junk Fender makes doesn't excite me.

    The 718 Cayman T would be what I would get over a Supra. You can get the 6 speed manual and it actually looks cool and timeless vs looking like a cough drop.

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    Also... with the new Supra, Toyota has no plans (zero) to offer any type of manual trans with it. Not in the works... not an option.
     
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    the supra twin turbo that came out in the 90's is what I remember. It looked Japanese. I really dont like the German flair to the car at all.
     
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    The Toyota 2JZGTTE was easily capable of 1000 Hp with very little in the way of upgrade and bullet proof

    Biggest problem for some was no pushrods, oh the horror it's a twin cam
     
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    I had a 1983 Supra. Loved that car. It met its unfortunate end when it collided with a cornfield. Damn thing came out of nowhere.
     
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