The Mahogany Rosewood Telecaster

Steve Holt

Friend of Leo's
Joined
May 29, 2016
Posts
3,718
Location
Kansas
Well it's a new year, cancer treatments are over (knock on mahogany and rosewood) and it's time for a new build. A friend of mine has been pestering me endlessly for this one. Just kidding. He's here reading this, but he won't speak up so I have to tease him a bit.

I had surgery back in November and while I was furiously trying to finish up two builds before the slicing deadline I had this thought that I might be done building guitars. The satisfaction was waning. But after two months of going stir crazy the bug bit me again and I'm back in the shop loving every minute of it.

I had this concept in my head of a stratocaster with a mahogany body and thin rosewood top. And when you do the roundover the mahogany will come up and make a border around it giving it sort of a bound look. I planned a matching rosewood fretboard and mahogany neck. Then in the planning stages for my friends telecaster, he was going back and forth between different ideas when I pitched the same thing in a tele version, with some larger roundovers and an arm and belly contour. I really want that border to be apparent.

His request was all gold everything. That I can oblige. So we're gonna try gold humbucking gold foils. Because why not? I'd warn everyone though that it appears Jescar has discontinued the gold Evo fretwire while they search for a new manufacturer to make it. So it's getting scarce.

One change we made to my original plan was the fretboard. Because I love African blackwood so much I told him that he really needs a guitar with an AB Fretboard. It'll go great with the black pickguard too.

Now for the build.

Here you can see quality control inspecting the wood as always. We only use the best 😆


20221022_224721.jpg



The rest of these are just some shots of the wood I've got. I finally got a chance to try out the new drum sander too! And don't be surprised if you see a strat build sneaking into this thread. I just can't help myself.

20221228_172412.jpg
20221228_172501.jpg
20221228_192107.jpg
20221228_194040.jpg
20221230_160349.jpg
20221230_173844.jpg
20221230_190939.jpg
 

Attachments

  • 20221228_174202.jpg
    20221228_174202.jpg
    225 KB · Views: 36

Steve Holt

Friend of Leo's
Joined
May 29, 2016
Posts
3,718
Location
Kansas
Most of my builds seem to involve heavy wood. So I'm usually doing some kind of weight relief in the form of hidden cavities. With this one the top is only about 1/8" thick since it's actually meant to be an acoustic back. Because of that I didn't want to leave any large open spans so I just drilled a bunch of holes with a forster bit. That worked pretty well. I had it down to 4lbs 8 oz before gluing the top on. I think it's 5lbs 3 oz with the top on. But there's still some more shaping to be done. So it's a little heavier than I wanted but still better than the boat anchor it would have been.

The strat is alder for once, so before I even got very far on the tele the strat was done and ready to be sanded.
20221231_171234.jpg
20221231_175200.jpg
20230110_180902.jpg
20230110_182405.jpg



Check out this secret wire route to connect the two pickups!


20230111_191021.jpg



20230111_191455.jpg
20230111_192033.jpg
20230112_163158.jpg
20230112_172154.jpg
20230112_172415.jpg



Like I said it's getting an arm contour. So I just have to try not to go too deep!
 

Steve Holt

Friend of Leo's
Joined
May 29, 2016
Posts
3,718
Location
Kansas
I cranked the heat up in the shop last night to get the top glued on, but then dragged it all inside to keep warm while the glue dried.
20230112_173913.jpg


Quality control having a go at the clamps. Successful glue up.

20230113_100330.jpg


That's a solid top.
20230113_102258.jpg


20230113_102247.jpg


Here's the first pass with the drum sander. Really enjoying this thing.
20230113_170616.jpg


20230113_170706.jpg


It really has a tremendous grain! I was a little worried that the horizontal dark streaks wouldn't come out and were just part of thr grain pattern. But they were just sander marks from when the board was processed.
20230113_171004.jpg



Then it was just a matter of finding the cavities and using a pattern bit with the bearing on the bottom.

20230113_172225.jpg
20230113_173400.jpg
20230113_174513.jpg
 

Steve Holt

Friend of Leo's
Joined
May 29, 2016
Posts
3,718
Location
Kansas
Now that's a real build! Some day that boy is gonna look at those pics with you in admiration. Congrats on making it through your treatments.

Thanks! It hasn't been so bad. Surgery to remove my thyroid and then a radioactive iodine pill to kill whatever is left. It could have been a lot worse. But it is nice to have it behind me.
 

I_build_my_own

Friend of Leo's
Joined
Mar 9, 2012
Posts
3,067
Location
New York
I cranked the heat up in the shop last night to get the top glued on, but then dragged it all inside to keep warm while the glue dried. View attachment 1072843

Quality control having a go at the clamps. Successful glue up.

View attachment 1072844

That's a solid top.
View attachment 1072846

View attachment 1072845

Here's the first pass with the drum sander. Really enjoying this thing.
View attachment 1072847

View attachment 1072848

It really has a tremendous grain! I was a little worried that the horizontal dark streaks wouldn't come out and were just part of thr grain pattern. But they were just sander marks from when the board was processed.
View attachment 1072849


Then it was just a matter of finding the cavities and using a pattern bit with the bearing on the bottom.

View attachment 1072850 View attachment 1072851 View attachment 1072852
That is droolalicious!!!
 

Steve Holt

Friend of Leo's
Joined
May 29, 2016
Posts
3,718
Location
Kansas
I had this great idea to do a sneaky little wire route. Between the hunbuckers. That way if the pickguard ever comes off, you'll still have screw holes, but no ugly routes to cover.

20230111_191021.jpg


20230113_191106.jpg


Once I tried the modern neck plate with the curve I was hooked. So now I do all of my builds that way. I think it has a cool look as well.

20230114_102734.jpg


20230114_103629.jpg


Definitely my least favorite hole to drill. But this one went pretty smooth.

20230114_105931.jpg


I underestimated how much roundover it would take to get a mahogany border showing through. I bet if I did a half inch that would do it. But that's too much for a telecaster. This is a 1/4" roundover. Because of this I talked it over with my friend and we decided no arm contour. So the top will just have a solid rosewood panel. And I think that's just fine.

20230114_111046.jpg


20230114_111051.jpg
20230114_121250.jpg


However we're still doing the belly cut.

20230114_123906.jpg
 

crazydave911

Doctor of Teleocity
Joined
Feb 23, 2010
Posts
14,425
Age
63
Location
East Tennessee
Thanks! It hasn't been so bad. Surgery to remove my thyroid and then a radioactive iodine pill to kill whatever is left. It could have been a lot worse. But it is nice to have it behind me.
My mother successfully fought thyroid cancer, it is the easiest to fight (thank God) because it doesn't spread easily.
The roundover you're looking for is 3/8" but the bits (at least now) are hard to find. Luckily I still have two, a Black & Decker and a Skil 😉
 

Steve Holt

Friend of Leo's
Joined
May 29, 2016
Posts
3,718
Location
Kansas
My mother successfully fought thyroid cancer, it is the easiest to fight (thank God) because it doesn't spread easily.
The roundover you're looking for is 3/8" but the bits (at least now) are hard to find. Luckily I still have two, a Black & Decker and a Skil 😉

I think I'm happy with 1/4" any more and the pickguard would need to be modified!
 

Steve Holt

Friend of Leo's
Joined
May 29, 2016
Posts
3,718
Location
Kansas
Today's update. Doing one of these upper fret access cutaways because they look cool. And they help a little for sure.
20230114_185528.jpg
.
20230115_160658.jpg


I did a half inch roundover along the bottom back of the guitar for comfort. Kind of a rickenbacker bass thing where you have different roundovers starting and stopping around the perimeter. I ended up going all the way around the lower bout and blending it into the cutaway.

20230115_155234.jpg
20230115_161505.jpg
20230115_161603.jpg
20230115_165122.jpg
20230115_165108.jpg


Sanded to 150 grit. That rosewood is just getting better and better.
 

Steve Holt

Friend of Leo's
Joined
May 29, 2016
Posts
3,718
Location
Kansas
I think the 1/4” roundover with no arm cut makes for a real clean, pretty, simple look. That wood matchup is lovely. Can’t wait to see the whole thing.

Yeah I agree. That was the decision we made on it. If there wasn't going to be a border around the whole thing, then it would look odd just to have one part of the guitar showing mahogany from the front. So I could still do it, and I could just use a larger roundover, but we're going for a nice uniform front right now, so no arm contour. the 1/4" is plenty comfortable in my opinion.
 




New Posts

Top