Flat6Driver
Poster Extraordinaire
When I’m in the hollers I often let people by. The locals know the roads, I do not.
The infamous brake check:
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Flat6Driver
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When I taught high performance driving, females were better at it. They didn’t come with all the testosterone and hubris and actually listened.
I've seen too many people, taking this to the extreme. They simply make the next step, which is leaving 3X the amount of space in front of them than others do. And then they get rear-ended because other people can't fathom that anyone would stop that short.
With all due respect, you're on the wrong path. Better to do what it takes to "dispose" of the following driver. By taking a different route, by just pulling over. The people who leave too much space in front of them stand out to the rest of us. Only the people doing it, seem oblivious. What ends up happening on multi-lane roads is, the vehicle in front of you keeps changing as more and more people pull in front of you and everyone else arrives late.
With kindest regards, you're setting a bad precedent. I know we really do want to trust these tailgaters - but sometimes you just have to.
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My favorite whitewater kayak instructors tended to be women. They know they don't have the testosterone to power through a mistake, and so they often have a photographic memory and can tell you precisely what's wrong with your technique, and how to improve it. They listened. And they taught me to listen (to a degree). It was much easier to teach a female student to do a "hands-roll" than a guy.
You may have hit upon something there. This is a relatively new development on the highway. It only began to show up frequently in about the late 80s or early 90s. Common place now for sure. I once had a guy try to give me some sort of lecture while stopped at a signal light. He was still talking as we drove off; it was completely wasted effort on his part, I couldn't hear a word he was saying with my windows up.
Rural living seems to have a whole other set of rules! My mountain man brother-in-law who lives up in Glennville Ca about fifty miles east of me in the mountains has talked about their particular etiquette. Thing is, they pretty much all know each other, and if not, will certainly come across one another sooner or later. It lends a whole different view to how you react to other drivers when you know them. BTW, you don't have to wonder if they are packing.
I forget why now, but once I rode with my brother on I-5 down the San Joaquin Valley, swooping up on one license plate after another, staying on it until each driver moved.
I don't know if I was more frightened or embarrassed, but I do know I never rode on the freeway with him again.
I don't know if I was more frightened or embarrassed, but I do know I never rode on the freeway with him again.
One of the things that burns me up, about this emphasis on self driving cars lately is, it tends mean de-emphasis on improving driver proficiency and skill sets. For example, the level of driver instruction provided to typical drivers is pathetic, in general, and compared to Germany. People drive poorly, but I think they would drive better if they only were exposed to proper instruction. The usual take-away that people get from the promotion of these self-driving cars is, there's no longer any need or purpose in seeking better driving skills through instruction.
I hear you, about people we know that one simply doesn't ride with. Ah, all the excuses and the pretense I will go to, to avoid riding with people who seem to like to make their passengers suffer.
Musekatcher
Friend of Leo's
I have the right of way in my state. Someone following must give way. Following distance is specific for each and every speed. at 70 mph, all are required to provide a minimum of 400 ft distance. I'll tap in at 25 feet with anyone clearly aggressive and out of control. NOTE: if you aren't following too close, a tap isn't going to be noticed...
I've been rear ended before by a distracted driver, so when I'm stacked and flanked in "bumper to bumper", and being tailed by an out of control individual, I'm not going to be a casualty. Defendable in a court of law.
studio
Poster Extraordinaire
The worst part of LA drive is that 710 Long Beach Fwy.
Its a 20 mile drive straight from Long Beach to South Pasadena.
The issue is that every independent rig driver is hauling containers on this stretch! The road is undermaintained for the amount of commercial and private traffic daily.
You might have half a mile of straight big rigs on two lanes in both directions leaving no space for commuter traffic to exit the offramps.
I'm surprised there are not more accidents than reported along this freeway. It is the gateway from the Port of Los Angeles.
I can't even imagine the condition the 710 is in now. It had breaks in the pavement that would nearly throw you out of the cab in a cab-over truck in the 80s. Not an exaggeration, after your first trip, you learned to be ready at certain places, and to NEVER have anything in the sleeper that could hit you in the head.
metalicaster
Friend of Leo's
Those people are why I would never take a car on a public road without dashcams.
Musekatcher
Friend of Leo's
I think an emotional approach to evaluating fellow drivers, and determining their faults or "health" on the road as it affects them and their motoring may in fact come out in their driving methods. I know I can tell if someone behind me is trying to get around me [at 77mph] and willing to impose their wishes on my right of way by tailgating excessively close. Some folks might interpret this as intimidation. I'm glad to help them with a demonstration of physics that may facilitate an adjustment to their attitudes, and awareness of who lawfully has the right of way.
It is the way of the I-5 corridor warrior with their lance at the ready! They BELIEVE the blacktop emergency parking is for those in front of them to move to and allow them to pass on their way to fight the dastardly windmill!
I can tell you this with absolute certainty. IF you allow what others perceive are faults in your driving to influence you in any way, you will eventually regret it. It didn't take long for me to realize that when I was driving a truck, I had plenty to do just keeping my rig between the lines.
What anyone else thought, was of no consequence to me. My goal was and remains to be, to have zero reaction to those who would intimidate, school, or otherwise impact my driving. If there ain't no paint involved, I ain't stopping.
What anyone else thought, was of no consequence to me. My goal was and remains to be, to have zero reaction to those who would intimidate, school, or otherwise impact my driving. If there ain't no paint involved, I ain't stopping.
stephent2
Poster Extraordinaire
I'll use the HATE word to describe how I feel about tailgaters so yes, I've brake checked in the past.
These days it's a stupid move, folks are whacked out. But tailgating is so unsafe for everyone involved,.. I pull over and let the wallyburgers pass.
These days it's a stupid move, folks are whacked out. But tailgating is so unsafe for everyone involved,.. I pull over and let the wallyburgers pass.
imwjl
Doctor of Teleocity
I recall interesting reading on Israeli military and pilots because their society has women and men all doing military service. I don't recall if it was those hormones but the article said the women and female helicopter pilots studies stood out for making good decisions.
Just marriage so a sporty wife and my daughter is interesting they take risks a lot of women don't but are smarter about it than my bunch of guy pals.
studio
Poster Extraordinaire
Nice one Sancho!
loudboy
Tele-Afflicted
I won't brake check, but on a two-lane road I'll either purposely go the exact speed limit, or I'll gradually slow down to 10-15mph below if the guy's being a dick.
