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The Fireman solo. Help !

Discussion in 'Tab, Tips, Theory and Technique' started by WaylonFan76, May 27, 2013.

  1. WaylonFan76

    WaylonFan76 Poster Extraordinaire

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    Playing a pick-up gig this weekend on top of my regular gig. Need to brush up on the Fireman and figured it was a good opportunity to learn it the right way this time. Anybody can help with tabs ? Here's a video but the angle and speed does not help much.
     
  2. jbmando

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    Here's my attempt:

     
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    jb, once again, YOU DA MAN !!! :D Thanks a bunch ! I think a lot of people will benefit from this one too.
     
  4. Ward

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    Here's how I play it, probably not exact, and I don't have my guitar with me, so forgive me if I make a couple errors:

    -5------------------------------------------
    ---5-4-5-3p2---2---------------------------
    --------------4---2p0----2-----------------
    -----------------------4---2p0------------
    -------------------------------3h4--------
    -------------------------------------------

    -------2p0-----------------5---------------
    -1p0-------1p0--1p0--1------5-5p3-2-2-----
    -----2----2----2----2-------------------2----
    -------------------------------------------4
    -------------------------------------------
    -------------------------------------------

    ------------------------5-------------------
    -------------------------------------------
    ------------2-----4s6--------------------------
    -4p2-0-----------------------------------------
    --------3h4-----------------------------------
    -------------------------------------------
     
  5. rob5150

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    sorry but whats a pick-up gig
     
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    usually where there is a contractor who hires various players to create a band for a gig... like a patchwork band.

    a fill in or sub gig is where it is a band needing one player.
     
  7. rob5150

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    oh right thanks
    how do you know what songs are going to be played at the gig
    or do you just go with the flow
    thanks
     
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    They will usually send you a set list some way or another. Usually email.
     
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    fill in gigs, you usually get a setlist a day or so before...

    pickup gigs are usually a total frickin surprise.
     
  10. rob5150

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    just being nosey
    but how many songs would be in a set
    a day or so even a week wouldnt be enough
    time for me to learn a set if it were over 10 songs
    id need longer
    you guys must have some memory
    good luck with ur gig
    thanks
     
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    usually they are 4 hours gigs in my experience.
    usually 10-14 songs per set
    a lot of songs are commonly known, you just need the key.
    on pickup gigs you pray that the singer plays an instrument and knows the songs and you follow.
    If the bass player knows the songs, they will usually tell you the formula prior to playing and you do what you can the best you can... it is remarkable how good your ear gets and how well you can listen for changes.

    I played a pickup gig once and didn't know any of the songs... MANY of them required me to play the kick... what the heck? but, you do it and it comes off better than a person might think. it was exhausting but exhilarating.

    the real pro guys here could probably play anything with no notice and do it flawlessly... It would be fun to hear their experiences!
     
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    it s fun to play along with folks you don t usually play with cause you ve got to pay attention a lot more that the usual stuffs....always be ready when you re playing guitar and the singer s pointing at you and says saxophone !
     
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    well that has opened my eyes
    to how scary a gig could be
    seems that we have a bunch of superhero players on hear
    so that seems about 70 songs in 4 hours
    i could do it if iknew the songs
    but i couldnt bluff it
    and i doubt these songs are 3 chord wonders
    a lot of changes i bet
    well i salute you guys
    please can i have some of your magic
    thanks
     
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    my friend Charlie Wallace once told me "the only magic is 6 gigs a week for at least 4 years."
     
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    i guess it depends pretty much on the songs...you can be ok with louie louie but have a hard times with the other stuffs... From my point of view i don t try to make it flawless but keep the audience entertained. If they re happy i m happy, with or without mistakes. Keep a smile on your face whatever s happening and you ll be ok. That s how i do it, but hey i do it for free, can t expect much from a free guitar player.
     
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    Great job as usual JB. Waylon- yours sounded fine too. It doesn't have to be exactly like the recording unless you just want to do it for your own personal reasons.. What you played sounded fine to me.

    Pick up gigs- If the gig is scheduled ahead of time and they care about their sound, they'll send you a set list. Writing Nashville Number charts for these gigs makes it much easier. Here's my process.
    1. Get the set list and start writing charts for everything.
    2. Learn the intros and signature parts
    3. Improvise the solos and fills. Or if you're not comfortable improvising, just get some 'rough' ideas of how you'll approach each solo section.

    Find out what the instrumentation is in the band. You'll need to know if you need to cover piano, steel, or fiddle intros and solos.

    Above all, my goal is to try to make THEM sound good and get along with everybody. That's what will get you hired back.
     
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    Well, I asked for their song list and got it in an email. 4 hour gig. That'll be 8 hours of music for me Saturday. It just so happens that their singer won't be there either, so my band's singer will be filling in. That should be interesting.:lol: We'll only be able to do "classics" that everybody knows.
     
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    wow you guys are amazing
    you must have some head for storing music
    and as for the singer thats 8hours of lyrics
    wow
    thats outstanding
    keep up the good work
    hope all goes great

    also guitar dan
    its great to hear that you dont have to always play the exact solo
    in a song
    ive always been a bit scared to try it
    incase people dont like it
     
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