The final word on music stands on stage.

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  1. nedorama

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    You all know that almost every touring singer has a "music stand" in the way of a screen with lyrics hidden in a monitor wedge...

    there's no shame in using a music stand, especially if you're sitting in playing a bunch of songs you don't know well...

    We have to play "Wagon Wheel" and chords? Not a problem - they're cowboy chords and any simpleton can remember them. But wrapping my head around lyrics I never listened to or care for? I need a music stand...

    Really wish our bass player would realize it's a lot cooler to play the right notes and know where we are in the song than saying "I don't need a music stand..."
     
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  2. archetype

    archetype Fiend of Leo's

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    Beat me to it!

    Just look at those stands. Sheet music, for god's sake. It's a room full of musical sissies, isn't it?
     
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    I think the fundamental disconnect is - it never looks cool. Unless you are incredibly cool. And even then, it doesn't really look cool. But you may be able to pull it off. Are you that cool? (Hint, the answer almost certainly is two words starting with the letters "H" and "N" in turn.)

    That doesn't mean you can't use one. But then why not accept it? And maybe stop trying to convince everyone (and yourself) that it is cool?
     
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    final word is, if you need a music stand in your cover band at your local bar in Enid, OK or Dayton, OH, or wherever, you'll never play that town again. you're a failure of a musician. you have squandered all of that potential that your dad blues rock cover band had to soar to the heights of national fame and historical relevance. shameful. you could have been the "clapton of cargo shorts" at 55, and you blew it. shameful.
     
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    The final word on music stands is, even if Johnny Cash does it, it would be cooler if Johnny Cash didn't need it.
     
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    It's like going to see a play and the actors are reading scripts.
     
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    …and can remember the words. (which is not a lot of us at my age). I've seen pro touring bands with a tablet clipped to the mic stand recently, a little less obvious.
     
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    But what about the rest of us who aren't as cool as Johnny Cash?


    And the lyrics don't start with "Livin' on sponge cake..."
     
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    Just for some additional background, here's a few anecdotes about Boy Named Sue. Basically he had only heard the song once before at a party, and got the handwritten lyrics that day and just winged it.

    https://www.wideopencountry.com/the...cashs-most-famous-story-song-a-boy-named-sue/

    https://www.birthplaceofcountrymusic.org/boy-named-sue-written-boy-named-shel/

    https://kxrb.com/the-real-story-of-a-boy-named-sue/

    Anyways, my band hasn't gigged for well over a year, and have only practiced together a few times too. So heck yeah, I'm using my music stand. It's not like we're playing anywhere where people can judge us - and I'll just have to give up my Cargo Shorts Clapton dream!

    Cheers,
    Doug
     
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    I play an electric guitar, not an acoustic. I use a pick, and not just my fingers. I frequently use effects pedals, not straight into the amp. I use a PA system, not a megaphone. I sometimes use stage lights, not candles. These are all TOOLS that, hopefully, contribute to the creation of good and enjoyable music. I've NEVER had anyone complain about my small music stand onstage.....in fact, other performers have asked to borrow it. I use it mainly for a set list, as well as lyric sheets and even announcements I'm asked to make.
    It's hard to tell from the picture, but it measures 9.5"X15", so much smaller than a typical orchestra stand. It mounts on a weighted-base mic stand, and is fairly unobtrusive. And, as I've said here before.....if my music stand is all you can complain about, I'll consider the gig a success.
    PS....I usually have it positioned more "horizontally", so it's even less noticeable. ;)
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    I really wish you folks would straighten out all those musicians that use music stands onstage.


    [huge eye roll]
     
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    I wonder if anybody in the audience felt gypped that he used a music stand :twisted:
     
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    Hmmmm?

    I don't know, but...

    imo, it sounds like maybe you're doing songs that you shouldn't be doing.

    I generally dont do material that I don't like or can't "pull off" well.

    The material that I select and perform is done with a lot of thought, care and love.

    My motivation and thought is that the listeners pick up on how you "feel" and perform a song.

    I want them to feel it, too.
     
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    So the final word is “if you’re Johnny Cash you can use a music stand?”

    None of us are Johnny Cash. ;)
     
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    I thought the consensus was that these were being replaced by iPads with Apps that manage set lists, scroll lyrics, lead sheet etc.

    There was a thread about which were the most popular apps but I couldn’t find it.
     
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    Music stands are OK, but I draw the line at shorts. No one in my band wears shorts. It doesn't happen. It shouldn't.
     
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