The Canadian smoke is back.

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We've had a bad air quality index along with a haze for the last couple weeks (Duluth, MN). AQI has gone down (good) to the 90s today but was up to 170 as a high last week (50 is good). Up the shore of Lake Superior is was over 250 last week. You can taste it/smell it on the bad days.
 

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We've had a bad air quality index along with a haze for the last couple weeks (Duluth, MN). AQI has gone down (good) to the 90s today but was up to 170 as a high last week (50 is good). Up the shore of Lake Superior is was over 250 last week. You can taste it/smell it on the bad days.
I think what got to us is some days it rolls between moderate to high risk fairly fast. We're really feeling off today and nothing else adds up to why. It might be that it also gets in your home even if you try not to. My eyes have some burn even after a shower so it's not like some sweat, dust or sunblock.

I sure hope it and we're better tomorrow and we head to the Kickapoo river for a nice summer day, and the rain in forecast Thursday can help. That Kickapoo day trip was an alternative to visit by you or go to UP.
 

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I used to look forward to those Canadian dry air high pressure systems that we would occasionally get in the summer. It was always a break from the heat and humidity. Always a nice chance to open up the house and do some summer cleaning. Not so much now. It has really affected me this year.
 

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I was about to say how smoking and smoke from wildfires aren’t exactly the same thing, when I remembered I hate both.

Good on France. That just may be the tipping point to get me to expat there.

I understand smoking ban on closed/indoors bars/clubs public places but banning smoking in beaches? What for? To not burn the sand or the sea itself 😂

Banning something just because you dont like it is not good, at least in such huge and open spaces. Others have rights as well.
 

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I understand smoking ban on closed/indoors bars/clubs public places but banning smoking in beaches? What for? To not burn the sand or the sea itself 😂

Banning something just because you dont like it is not good, at least in such huge and open spaces. Others have rights as well.
probably so that people don't leave the filters in the sand ?
 

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How have meteorologists been explaining this? Much of Ontario has gotten a lot of rain. So some high pressure system or high-level winds have steered the rain around Manitoba...? For how long, now?
 

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It got thicker here in northern Michigan a couple days ago, and I learned this level bothers me enough to keep me inside, or outside with an N95. We are heading home downstate and it’s just as bad there, and keeps hanging around with otherwise beautiful summer weather & light winds. Ugh.
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It got thicker here in northern Michigan a couple days ago, and I learned this level bothers me enough to keep me inside, or outside with an N95. We are heading home downstate and it’s just as bad there, and keeps hanging around with otherwise beautiful summer weather & light winds. Ugh. View attachment 1405037View attachment 1405041
We have had a bad fire along one of the highways that connects central California with the coast (Hwy 166). The fire has been going for some time now; the smoke is so bad that the moon was blood red even in its first quarter.
 

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I understand smoking ban on closed/indoors bars/clubs public places but banning smoking in beaches? What for? To not burn the sand or the sea itself 😂

Banning something just because you dont like it is not good, at least in such huge and open spaces. Others have rights as well.
I can understand this from experience as a licensed guide, public lands volunteer, trail steward, watershed cleanup/fix volunteer and active in or watching a lot of related topics.

Litter is a real problem and some popular places have crowding never imagined in earlier times. The budgets for the places and enforcement have been challenged for a good while and that's much worse recently. Setting consistent rules is best. There are plenty of places to smoke and not be bothering others.
 

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probably so that people don't leave the filters in the sand ?
Then whats coming next? Banning food and soda cans for people not leaving garbage in the sand?

I mean... We are adults right? This is not a proper excuse :)

Litter is a real problem and some popular places have crowding never imagined in earlier times.

Looks like this is already answered above.

Setting consistent rules is best.

Id be in for consistent rules that everybody should mind their own business instead of choosing to be annoyed with someone that smokes a few meters away.

There are plenty of places to smoke and not be bothering others.

Is it for littering or because others are bothered? We cleared up littering, if someone is bothered by a smoker in an open space its as i said above his or her problem.

Pretty sure nobody in 2025 is going to come face to face and blow smoke on you so unless he or she is in your reach the problem is clearly psychological.
 

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Toronto’s air quality was second worst to Kinshasha for a bit. Definitely hazy here between Toronto and Detroit. Looks like Chicago is getting hit pretty hard by this and areas to the north and west of it. Definitely going to avoid strenuous outdoor activity for a while.

Cheers,
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I understand smoking ban on closed/indoors bars/clubs public places but banning smoking in beaches? What for? To not burn the sand or the sea itself 😂

Banning something just because you dont like it is not good, at least in such huge and open spaces. Others have rights as well.
I regularly exercise my right to fart in public spaces....

but that second hand smoke won't hurt anyone else, where your red box or unfiltered camel smoke can impact people who aren't you, so, your rights end where it threatens others.

https://www.cdc.gov/tobacco/secondhand-smoke/health.html

I'd imagine that is why the ban.
 

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but that second hand smoke won't hurt anyone else, where your red box or unfiltered camel smoke can impact people who aren't you, so, your rights end where it threatens others.

The subject is smoking on a beach. Its open, its big, the air is usually running wild because there are no houses around to cut it down and the cigarette from someone a few meters away will harm you?

It does not fall in the secondhand smoke category, its purely psychological and according to new standards "societal racism"
 

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Atmospheric particulates are elevated in Western NY. The only upside is that we're having colorful sunsets sue to all the crap in the air.
 

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The subject is smoking on a beach. Its open, its big, the air is usually running wild because there are no houses around to cut it down and the cigarette from someone a few meters away will harm you?

It does not fall in the secondhand smoke category, its purely psychological and according to new standards "societal racism"
I know reading is work and work is viewed as societal racism too... but read the article and you'll find that on a beach, on a mountain, in a dune, on a boat... second hand smoke is a threat.

READ the article, then post.
 

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We used to love going back to Oregon in the summers when my kids were little. I remember the first year that huge summer wildfires started wrecking the trip in August…
 

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Our sunny day has turned dark from the smoke but layers are not (yet) too close to the ground. A friend who's painting outside swears he's seeing ash drop and I suspected the same. I washed our deck and furniture last weekend and it seems to be on it.

I sure hope this is not as I recall two summers ago when it was prolonged and at times hard to do stuff outside.

Of course, I also hope none of you are in danger from the actual fires.

We don’t know where you live.
 
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