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The "Bedroom Amp" question. Help me understand ?

Discussion in 'Glowing Bottle Tube Amp Forum' started by Tomm Williams, Aug 16, 2018.

  1. homesick345

    homesick345 Poster Extraordinaire

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    Damn right...

    The right hand is your distortion. Left hand is your sustain. Once this is mastered, one can play at any volume...

    Just quoting Mike Bloomfield, by the way.

    Many players don't get it. Hands produce whatever you want them to do. Bedroom or stadium level.
     
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    The term bedroom amp can imply a smaller amp with low power rating, and tiny speaker. Yes, a monster amp will fit in a tiny room for potential practice. ;)

    Some bands do not carry a PA. And, some venues do not have a PA. That leaves a (PA) void in some cases.
     
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    My house is kinda long and thin. I can play pretty loud, before my wife notices.......

    If I had an apartment, or sleeping kids, I'd pull out the old Cube 15 and plug into the headphone jack.
     
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    MilwMark Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

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    Well, a PR a bedroom amp. And depending on the pot taper can be quite loud at 3 on the dial. Not condoning police calling at 7:30pm over what was likely just loud home stereo level sound, mind you.
     
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    I use a Pignose. Works well for me.
     
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    IMO a "bedroom amp" is one that is never played louder than TV volume .
     
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    Does a woman live there? If one does = your my hero and I need pointers.
     
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    I can't help but like this reply
     
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    I rarely gig, and when I do it's at church where everyone plays through the PA.

    At home, I want something that doesn't take up the whole room, doesn't cost $4k, and will break up at volumes appropriate for home.
     
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    me too..dsl40cr made into head...20/40 watt and res & pres...from barely audible to lets rock levels..by far the most versatile amp i ever saw..has blues-jazz-metal..all in it...it can be clean and dirty ... also pedals well and loves a TS in any channel the old school way..level up tone to suit and maybe a tiny bit of gain..also..emulated line out...footswitchable from clean to crunch to med crunch to sustaining leads..keeps tone consitant from low levels to high...can do plexi-very close (treble & bass side)
     
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    My Mesa Boogie Express 5:25 is on the edge of being useful at home. My personal judgment of useful at home is that I can sing over the amp without a mic. I can do that pretty well with judiciously set up Clean and Blues channels. I play mostly finger style. At the same settings it gets pretty loud with the bridge pickup of my Telecaster played clean with a flat pick. At an at home volume I can push the amp to break up but I find if that's what I want, switching the amp to 5W is the way to go. The 5W setting on the 5:25 is a little brighter without sounding thinner to my ears. Choosing an amp in a store can be a challenge. People around you don't want to hear how loud the amp can play and unless you can take it into a more private setting, hearing it played at an at home volume is difficult over the noise of drums, basses, and other guitars. I lucked out. I bought mine in a small non-chain shop in Maryland and was the only one playing in the smallish sales area at the time. A 25W tube amp with a lot of head room is probably more than you want in the bedroom. A PRRI doesn't have a mid control and I'd miss that. Finding the right amp isn't easy. I think I lucked out.
     
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    Great amp..that 5 watt setting has such rich harmonics in it..that is like 2 amps in 1 in that 5:25... should of never got rid of mine..that was the amp for my carry around needs for sure...its portable..so many sounds...and it really does overdrive nice at normal talking levels..
     
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    This is true for the sort of lower gain blues playing Bloomfield specialized in, but even Stevie Ray Vaughan used a Tube Screamer. For anyone playing higher gain rock or metal, the "distortion" your hands produce isn't going to cut it.

    I've been a gigging guitarist for 30+ years. Many many times on a blues gig, I've plugged straight into a 15-watt amp and got the perfect tone for that style of music. But if a rock band hires me to play Van Halen or Zeppelin covers, I'm bringing along the pedalboard to get the tones I need.
     
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    Speakers don't. Most speakers intended for live band use are producing at the very least 94db (more likely 97db-101db) with 1 watt of power. 94 db is lawn mower volume. I don't know about you, but I wouldn't want the noise of a lawn mower in my bedroom. Home volume from amps designed for live use is a myth. That's why a modeler or small solid state amp with a small speaker that pushes far less db with a watt or less of power, is a better solution.

    If people don't care what the sound and feel is for home practice, I get that, but that is not the answer for everyone.
     
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    My first real amp was SFTR with master volume .The 135 watt monster version. I could still get good sound out of it while everyone else was sleeping. But I could also wake everyone up for a mile radius too. Twins are fun like that
     
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    I play a thr yamaha in my bedroom, of course it's a very nice and APPROPRIATE solution

    However, even with a super reverb on 1.5, the thing is you could milk sustain and attack out of it if one knows what he's doing. Please don't think I'm bragging the least

    Actually if one wants dirt, many pedals work great at low volume

    My point is clean low volume could be made interesting in the right hands
     
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    I dont care if it's 5 watts or 3. "Bedroom level" doesn't exist unless you live alone. You need a headphone setup.
     
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    At home I play clean 99% of the time so breakup at low vol isn't a concern to me. Half the time I don't plug in at all. I can hear my solid body in a quiet room just fine.
     
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    I’m thinking Axis29 hit the nail on the head in terms of most “bedroom amp” threads. Most, but not all, OK?

    I’m in the minority that has always gigged, so I don’t care much about my tone at home. I use a spare bedroom to practice. The last few years my #1 has been a ‘54 Deluxe. It gets wound up a ways at a gig with the band. At home, I never turn it up past 2. The cleans are glorious and it improves my playing to play clean. Gig tone doesn’t matter to me at home.

    Actually, always ran the same drill with my Twin Reverb too, as far as that goes and anything else I own and decide to drag out.

    I do think that perhaps home use of amps varies some depending on what other musical adventures a guitarist may be involved in to some degree.
     
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    Most Deluxe's I've plugged into are approaching wall-shakingly loud at 2. Many seem to stop getting louder by about 3 and just compress/distort more.

    Point being, we seem to be working off multiple concepts of "home volume" here.

    Might be more useful to say -

    - loud conversational volume
    - normal TV volume
    - loud TV volume
    - I can't quickly identify who said it but "can I sing over it volume" is also a good one.
     
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