The amount of pajamas in the workplace has gotten out of control

[pixeljammer]

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While I wish they did, people have no responsibility to be attractive decoration for your life.

As a sometimes-street-photographer, I do wish people didn’t wear such ugly getups. I wish car designs were more interest, too.

it’s “Dress for the job you want”, not “Dress for the bod you want”.

The inventor of yoga pants did us all a great disservice.

 

[loudboy]

Dress codes are what they are. Used to be at companies like Xerox, IBM and NASA, for men it was a white shirt and a tie every day and no hair touching the ears. The funny thing about these kinds of rules and people griping about them is when an employee signs on they agree to abide by the rules as a condition of employment. It's only afterward some employees decide they're within their rights to express their own identity by pushing back or flat-out breaking the rules. Bite the hand that feeds ya.

I constantly ran into this issue when I was in the military. Tattoos became a problem: the rules got relaxed over the years, but even so some members flat-out broke the rules, and some always pushed the boundaries. Hair length, hair color, facial hair, earrings, fingernails, uniform standards, weight standards, you name it...there was always a problem with at least one person in any unit. Usually it was five or six people, men and women. They sign up, agree to the rules, and break them because "they're an individual." We kicked people out because they refused to abide by the rules they themselves agreed to follow. That is idiotic behavior.

I'm sure at some commercial organizations the dress code might be arbitrarily enforced and that is certainly unfair.



"You might be a redneck if one of your parents works without a shirt on, and so does your dad."

Understood. I had a professor in college who said if you don't like the way a company looks when you interview, you don't want to work there.

 

[pixeljammer]

That made me think of my grandfather who would wear a suit and bow tie under his coveralls.

My dad's father and his old hides and junk truck were my early 1960s day care center. He would wear a clean white shirt and bow tie under his coveralls when he drove this truck with me his passenger. When he went to the bank he would take off his coveralls and walk in dressed like the bankers, attorneys and other businessmen.

What a gift to have family elders like that. What they escaped and survived makes their graceful and classy ways more incredible to me. They come to mind if I catch myself in public in a bit of an unkept mode.

That made me think of the John Prine lyric:

Grandpa wore his suit to dinner
Nearly every day
No particular reason
He just dressed that way
Brown necktie and a matching vest
And both his wingtip shoes
He built a closet on our back porch
And put a penny in a burned out fuse.

 

[thesamhill]

Personally I need to wear real pants and shoes to get any work done. If I don't, my brain doesn't believe we're working and starts in with the YouTube surfing.

I have a work costume that works for me. Cargo pants, collared shirt, black v neck sweater, boots or walking shoes depending on the weather. I can face students, administration, and practitioners in that and still be comfortable, and it works on Zoom.

But when it comes down to it, I do brain work and discomfort is distracting. So when it's crunch time I'm in cargos, sneaks, my thinking cap (a UPS knit hat that is magically warm and tres stylish, worn sideways) and the comfiest t shirt currently available in my closet.

Don't know if I care much what other people wear but maybe I would if it got weird.

Ah the good old days when we cared so much about decorum we insisted on being able to make others smell like an ashtray/give them emphysema. Something besides attire is also different about that top photo, can't quite put my finger on it.

Yeah that top photo looks foul.

I was buying clothes recently and here's a societal clue: they're called lounge-wear now, not pyjamas.

I think this is because you aren't supposed to call clothes "sleepwear" or "pajamas" if they aren't a certain level of fire resistant. Flaming children scenarios are to be avoided.

Someone working in a tanktop would make me feel ill at ease. Someone who has poor hygiene too. It is sort of hard to define, it is not just the clothes, it is the behaviour.

My first question in this situation is whether the issue is potentially related to autism spectrum. In that circumstance, an honest, direct word might seem embarrassing to you but might be appreciated by the recipient, as might an assurance that the issue won't be held against him/her and all is cool if it is addressed and resolved.

 

[johnny k]

My first question in this situation is whether the issue is potentially related to autism spectrum. In that circumstance, an honest, direct word might seem embarrassing to you but might be appreciated by the recipient, as might an assurance that the issue won't be held against him/her and all is cool if it is addressed and resolved.

I mean it would put me ill at ease on the work place, not so much in a different context. I might be somewhere on the spectrum though.

 

[Ironwolf]

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SO much more civilized back in the day. I miss it.

 

[aging_rocker]

I have been known to go outside in my pyjamas (boxers, old t-shirt) to let the chickens out, but that's it.

I understand that certain public-facing roles require a dress-code of some sort, and safety wear as appropriate, but otherwise, don't tell me what to wear.

I've always had issues with being told how to dress - school was 'difficult' and 'challenging'...words that were applied to me quite often as a schoolboy.

I've worn overalls to work in, and no problem with appropriate safety kit. When I got my first job (1974 - apprentice motor mechanic) I had to wear a woolly hat to tuck my lengthy hair into, it made sense so no worries.

In these days of me doing IT-work, pretty much anything goes. I've seen dudes with beards wearing dresses at my current (government) workplace, and as someone mentioned above, it reminded me of getting into a 'debate' once about wearing open-toed footwear in the office - I pointed to the females wearing sandals, etc. and basically said 'if they can wear those, I can wear these'. Mine were nice bright green leather sandals, too.

When I go into the office these days (one day a week, often less) I wear jeans and a shirt (I don't have any white ones, mostly very colourful ones), or jeans and a t-shirt. I rode the lift (elevator) a couple of weeks ago, chatting with the CIO, he had a t-shirt and jeans on too.

 

[Ironwolf]

I seldom have to wear a suit but, if I did, I'm set. I have four tailored suits, each with at least two pair of trousers and two shirts. I have a Tuxedo, and I have, put away in the back of the closet, To sets of dress greens and a set of dress blues. I can go anywhere at any time and not worry about how I'm dressed. I figure that is just what it means to be a civilized and consciences member of Western Society.

 

[BigDaddyLH]

This thread reminds me of other threads here that pop up during hot weather. Some forum members absolutely refuse to wear shorts.

 

[getbent]

when I retired and took the job I have now, I decided that I would wear a hoodie and khakis and hiking boots when it is the colder part of the year and a long sleeve tshirt and khakis (or cargoes) when it is warm.

I can kind of call my own shots at work on that kind of thing. (I think they'd not feel comfortable asking me to wear a tie) so, all good! I standardized on llbean khakis and carhartt for all shirts and hoodies. I have 40 pairs of the exact same socks. I have three different shoe models that I choose from so I make almost NO decisions when I get up to go to work.

At home, I found these righteous puma jog pants that are lighter than sweats, but very comfortable and look a little dressy, clingy but not yoga pants. they have the same kind of deal like hoodies do at the wrist but for the ankle! AWESOME and really comfortable. I only wear brooks running shoes. Usually either a carhartt hoodie or a carhartt T (long sleeve or short) and I'm ready to work or have fun or go to dinner or whatever.

I wear jeans or cargoes if I'm working in the woods or at the ranch, but only then.

At my age and stage, I do what makes me feel comfortable and happy without standing out.

 

[Hodgo88]

I can imagine that conversation
Yo stinky, why don't you hit the shower everyonce in a while ?

With all the farting you do maybe we could start making biogaz ? with the right gear we could heat this building for free !

I am joking but this is not the sort of news i would want to announce to anyone.

Naw, it's kind of like the customs scene from Fight Club, or Dick Cheney's hunting incident "apology". We have to make it as vague and non-accusatory as possible.

"I've received reports from the team that there's been an excess of flatulence in the office. Typically, in those complaints your name comes up, so I'd like to ask for your help getting to the bottom of this, or if maybe a medical accommodation is the right course of action."

 

[stephent2]

I aways smile w/ I see a young child in his/her favorite PJs w/ parents out in public. It's so cute.

I'm no psychiatrist but I'd guess there'd to be a passive-aggressive component to wearing PJs in public as an adult.

 

[middy]

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What's missing in this photograph? Besides the overpowering odor of cigarettes, Vitalis, and Miss Dior...

 

[BigDaddyLH]

What's missing in this photograph? Besides the overpowering odor of cigarettes, Vitalis, and Miss Dior...

Give us a hint! Just the initials

 

[johnny k]

What's missing in this photograph? Besides the overpowering odor of cigarettes, Vitalis, and Miss Dior...

liquor ?

 

[johnny k]

This thread reminds me of other threads here that pop up during hot weather. Some forum members absolutely refuse to wear shorts.

It has to be really hot for me to wear shorts at home. No shorts on the workplace, out of respect for the coworkers who might not enjoy the sight of my hairy, chewbacca legs.
No open shoes either. Out of respect for myself.

 

[String Tree]

Disclaimer: I work in tech, YMMV. This is me being a grumpy old man and should be taken with a grain of salt.

When did it become acceptable to show up to work in pajamas? Not just sweatpants, but actual honest to God pajamas, looking like you just rolled out of bed. It just doesn't scream "ready to work" to me.

Would you be happier if they simply took them off?

 

[eddiewagner]

I work in a very corporate environment. I started 16 years ago and the rules were shoes, not sneakers. Slacks or khakis, not jeans and a shirt with a collar. Jeans permissible on Fridays. These days, the younger cats are wearing sneakers and I have noticed that long hair on young men is making a huge comeback. Facial hair has about peaked and is starting to decline slightly. I still stick to the dress code from when I started there.

Long hair comes back? Super, I will be hip again soon!

 

[ReverendRevolver]

This thread reminds me of other threads here that pop up during hot weather. Some forum members absolutely refuse to wear shorts.

What are shorts?

Oh, the pants missing most of the leg, right......
Just for swimming. Nothing else.

 

[sax4blues]

I feel kinda stoopid when my wife comes home from 1/2 day work at noon and I’m in pajamas playing guitar.