that "dream strat" - i'll have to build it myself!

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How do you palm mute or palm heel rest with a backwards whammy setup?
when i had the SRV strat, i had it setup to go down only. so it was not a problem. but if you mean how to keep the bar out of your way, hold the headstock up slightly and the bar will fall away.

it was never any problem.
 

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i just read these are a "favorite of john fruscianti". that is a plus, for sure.

If this matters a lot to you, look into it as there appears to be some controversy/misinformation about it. I'm not sure about the details but depending on what you read, what are sometimes referred to as SSL-1's were actually whatever the American Standard Strats of the time had.

I'm sure either one would do the job admirably, though.
 

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when i had the SRV strat, i had it setup to go down only. so it was not a problem. but if you mean how to keep the bar out of your way, hold the headstock up slightly and the bar will fall away.

it was never any problem.

When I got my SRV strat I expected it to come with a LH bar to go in the LH block, but it came with a RH bar.
 

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I had SSl-1s in a very light very punky swamp ash strat body, it was a hardtail, with a fat maple Warmoth boat neck, and I wired it with 500K pots and it was tooooo bright, I thought. The big maple neck, super light swamp ash body recipe that works so nicely for tele's doesn't, imo, cut it as well for strats. Honestly I think 250K pots might have made it better, but I traded it for another guitar. I wonder who has it now, I often wonder about that, but not enough to bump my classified add every day for 6 months :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:. (you know who you are).

I think you can go too light on a strat body, they seem like they have less wood volume than a tele, and tend to be kind of bright and gutless, especially with the already sort of gutless strat bridge pickup.

I currently have a pretty light (sub 4 lb) alder strat too, I've had the body for probably 20 years, it has lollar blackfaces (which I see they don't make anymore) in it now. I had a few different necks on that body. It has a flat sawn, 1 piece, vintage style, very big maple tele neck on it now, and it really does sound pretty great, but it took a few permutations to get it right. I had both a medium C Warmoth/Modern ebony board neck and a medium C Warmoth vintage/modern maple 1 piece maple neck on it too, and neither one really did much for me on that body, even with a humbucker, and I don't remember what pickups, maybe the lollars still?

I think, in any case, if you want 50s style strat pickups you can't go wrong with the SSL-1's or maybe the antiquity set, if you want to get a little fancier.
500k pots made that bright. Try the 1meg in a Tele if you like bright 😉
 

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Get a loaded Player Strat body from Stratosphere. The Alnico V pickups are perfect for the tones you referenced. Sell the stock vibrato and get a lefty bridge; make the minor mod to the body and install the bridge. Stick a neck on there that you like. Done.
 

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If this matters a lot to you, look into it as there appears to be some controversy/misinformation about it. I'm not sure about the details but depending on what you read, what are sometimes referred to as SSL-1's were actually whatever the American Standard Strats of the time had.

I'm sure either one would do the job admirably, though.

Yes, I've read the same stuff--there's conflicting stories about the pickups in that guitar. The only thing those pickups have in common is that they are vintage-voiced and handle gain well.
 

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Bootstrap 54 Vintage Pro. Made right up the road from you!
+1 for bootstrap. Even if you decide to upgrade to something pricier later, bootstrap has a great variety of options priced so well you can try a few different things and zero in on the exact style and features of pickups that fits your guitar before dropping serious money on something.
 

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For chime and jangle, underwound pickups are the secret sauce. And remember, you can overdrive underwound strings, but you can't underdrive overwound strings.

Lindy Fralin makes some nice ones. Seymour Duncan probably does, too.

I did what you did: built two Strats (a whammy and a hardtail) and a Tele the way I wanted them. With those plus and old humbucking Harmony, I cover the electric waterfront.
 

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@thunderbyrd

Get a loaded Player Strat body from Stratosphere. The Alnico V pickups are perfect for the tones you referenced. Sell the stock vibrato and get a lefty bridge; make the minor mod to the body and install the bridge. Stick a neck on there that you like. Done.

This.

I also had a Fender FSR Koa Strat (made in Korea) that came with Seymour Duncan Alnico Pro Staggered pickups. They were the best sounding pickups I ever owned.
 

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well, i have made a move on this project. i just recieved a body from musickraft yesterday. i abandoned the backwards whammy idea and just got a standard whammy body. i actually own a players strat and i do like those pickups a lot, so i think i'm going to cannibalize 'em, like Peegoo suggested above. i have a warmoth strat with the biggest neck and biggest frets that they sell and i think i am going to use that neck.

the first issue is to get the body painted. i've never painted a guitar, so it's going to be an adventure!

i wonder what the best classic strat six-hole whammy system would be the best to buy?
 

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My 'strat' has an Allparts TRO-FAT neck. I've a Telecaster pickup in the bridge (Cavalier fat lion) Tone control active for bridge and a Wilky trem which only goes down. If I had to own just one guitar,this would be it. I built it 10 years ago and still love it.

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after a lot of thinking, i'm probably going to go with lollar 64 pick ups. not cheap! but i have a guitar with a lollar pickup i like very much.

i've decided against the warmoth neck i already have, i need slightly smaller frets.
 

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well, now the long wait begins...got my body to mjt, ordered a closet clean, black gloss and a tort pickguard. 10 weeks, which puts it around the beginning of June.

i had originally planned to try and paint it myself, but i didn't want to end up with something i'd hate every time i looked at it.

if everything goes good, i hope to end up with a guitar like this one:


the next challenging thing for me is to get a neck with really dark rosewood.
 

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i wonder what the best classic strat six-hole whammy system would be the best to buy?
My research led me to the Wudtone CP Vintage which I equipped my "1960s Charvel" build with. It boasts beveled screw slots, a brass trem block, Highwood saddles (no screws sticking out) and a thin steel shim that sits between the body and the base of the trem for the whole thing to ride on. IMHO it looks pretty vintage from a few feet away, you decide:

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Now, whether it's that, the well cut and lubricated nut and saddles, or the locking tuners that contributes the most to that guitars tuning stability, I can't say. What I can say is that the action of the trem is very very smooth compared to other 6 screw terms and it returns to pitch accurately.
10 weeks, which puts it around the beginning of June.
I hope you have better luck than me. The guitar above was about two months delayed, and a closet clean Tele body I ordered from them is currently one month delayed and counting. The finish work is still quite good, but I do wish they would communicate better when they aren't going to make the dates they sign themselves up for.
 

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Tone Bomb bodies/necks:
as good as Warmoth but less money…
Built these 3… nothing spared.. the Tahitian coral tele cost me 500.00 with nitro paint all dimarzio pickups
 

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Maybe a TBX Tone Control would give that chime and jangle that you may look for coz it will cut all the lows and give you all the glassy chimes. But yeah a Seymour Duncan SSL or a CS69 pickups are good for that jangle. Or any vintage sounding pickups. Dream on!


 




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