Thank You Jack for Diminishing the Stigma of Playing a Squier Strat

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  1. mkdaws32

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    That guy had one of the best tones to ever come out of a guitar.

    My #1 and #2 were Korean special edition Fenders (a Tele and a Strat) for years - just awesome players (still are, still have them). Now my #1 and #2 are an Am STD Tele and a Squier Affinity Strat with Tex Mex pickups. Again, both awesome players, but these are both a little brighter and edgier than my MIKs, which suits me right now (I’m sure that will change again soon :) ). All four are equally great players, regardless of the names on the headstocks or the price paid. It’s rare I pick up another guitar anywhere that I like as much as these four.
     
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    24 track Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

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    I had the pleasure to work sound for Jeff Healey at the Yale hotel in Vancouver , you would be surprized at what he used to get that tone , a fender champ that sat under his chair and his squier strat , thats it
     
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    That’s awesome. Kinda puts all the “tone chasing” we do in perspective, doesn’t it?
     
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    24 track Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

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    yes it does, the secret is to use what you got and work it till it works for you, and not to sound androgonous to every one else. How many jeff becks do we need , I'm happy , no Exstatic with the real one, LOL
     
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    @24 track I hear you. I always sound the same no matter what I play through. It’s my tone - the tone in my head - and I love it. I have no amp GAS at all. Guitars, I’m fussy about, though. More than the tone, I care about the range of dynamics I can get and the attack and feel when I really dig in. Some guitars seem to have a “lid” of sorts (compression? pickups?) and other just keep getting bigger and fuller and more aggressive the more I dig in. I always set my gain so it’s a nice light crunch when playing moderately, cleaner when I back off and a healthy crunch when I dig in. I find I have to do a bit of playing with any new guitar to get it to respond the way I like. Sometimes it’s a pickup height adjustment - sometimes it’s needs a pickup swap. I have full-size HB guitars, single-size HB guitars (rails) and all true single coil guitars. Differ tones, which is good, but I want them to all respond to my touch the same. I use a heavier clean boost after true singles, and that helps.

    Bottom line is, I know what I like and I know how to get it ;). What’s on the headstock doesn’t matter.
     
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    24 track Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

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    I set up my studio rig so I can have 6 different sounds i like and I can blend them using a 16 channel mixer not daisy chain them but my main tones or sounds can be created as stand alone units through any amp or direct into the console individually, a different approach entirely.
     
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    If you're worried that there is or is not a stigma associated with some brand, you are wasting your time. Over the past year for most of my live shows I have used a stock Epiphone. Never once has anyone bothered to mention or discuss the brand or price of my guitar. I have gotten many compliments on playing and tone, but none on the type of guitar I own. It seems beneath discussion - if the fanciness of your instrument is the measuring stick, they are not listening to the music.
     
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    Ahhhhh... but what kind of "tone chair" was he sitting on? :lol:
     
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    @24 track I use a completely different approach in the studio as well (hobbyist mostly - I have done paid session work, but not extensively). It comes down to a lot of experimentation and thinking outside of the box at times. My approach above is more for live work where consistency and simplicity are king.
     
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    Yes! Was the chair Ash or Alder!
     
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    this is mine

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    oak chair lol
     
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    Never felt there was any stigma with Squier ... having owned both a strat and a tele ... they were just fine ... a good player should have no problem with one ... Jimi or Clapton would sound just like ... Jimi or Clapton ...
     
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    Here’s my Road Worn 50s Tele and my Squier VM Tele Deluxe.

    I love everything about the Squier. It’s the only electric guitar I played first before buying it. The RW and my other electrics were ordered online.

    I didn’t know who Jack Pearson was before seeing his video with Marty Schwartz. He is a wonderful player for sure.

    However, I can tell whether a guitar is good or not just by playing it. My Squier is plenty good enough.
     
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    I take a weird (maybe it isn't) kind of pleasure out of doing something as spectacular as I can pull off (musically speaking) with one of my home made partscasters that are basically strats, but have jazzmaster necks on them. I leave the Squier Jazzmaster logo's on them just because it makes people go "wtf ?" a lot of times. It's fun, I like it ... and the guitars play and sound awesome so what's not to like ?

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    Squiers are terrific guitars, even the Affinity line. I still put Fender decals on them, though. Just for the appearance.
     
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    Yeah see, I never really hear anybody ridicule players of Squiers.

    What I see a lot of though is this sort of snobbish ridicule of rich guys with CS Fenders!
     
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    Well yeah. It's more fun to make fun of the guy at the dude ranch with the big sheepskin chaps and the 10 gallon hat and the expensive fancy shiny saddle.
     
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    if you dismiss you feeling that you are doing something wrong and know it, the experience feeling of stigma will leave immediately.
     
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