Telecasters and Les Paul Sound Alike...

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  1. Gretev1

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    Who else feels that a Les Paul and a Telecaster sound similar...especially when overdriven. I have always thought a Tele sounds like a Les Paul when you drive the amp with them a little. I never heard anyone else say so until Greg Koch who demos the guitars for Wildwood Guitars said something similar in a video; that a 1960 burst he was playing sounded like a Tele with some meat on it.
    Who else feels this way? Who agrees? Who disagrees?
     

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    Here is the video. At 0:38 you can hear the comment. I agree!
     
  3. brookdalebill

    brookdalebill Tele Axpert Ad Free Member

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    I think distortion is a great “equalizer”.
    It tends to “homogenize” the tonality of electric guitars.
    I think it’s even more true of pedal/effect distortion.
    Organic distortion, from a cranked amp lets the guitar’s “personality” shine through more.
    To my ears, a (stock) Tele is way more “present” sounding than a Les Paul.
    The Paul will have good highs, but way more mid-range tonalities.
    My favorite Les Pauls lean to the bright side.
    I love em’ both, BTW.
     
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  4. 3-Chord-Genius

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    The Les Paul in that video does sound like a Telecaster. It may be the way he's playing it. But I have done some home recordings with a Telecaster (Tex-Mex pickups) and a Heritage H-140, which is essentially a Les Paul, and it's very difficult if not impossible to distinguish one from the other.
     
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  5. CV Jee Beez

    CV Jee Beez Tele-Holic

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    I talked to Andy Elliottof Elliot Guitars and he voiced something similar. He felt that really good LP's sound like really good Tele's. I thought about and abstractly understood what he was talking about. It doesn't make sense if you take it literally and are prone to splitting hairs but, as a concept, I get it. I think it's kinda true.
     
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  6. reckless toboggan

    reckless toboggan Tele-Holic

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    The old saying...

    A good Telecaster sounds like a Les Paul, and a good Les Paul sounds like a Telecaster.
     
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  7. Ricky D.

    Ricky D. Doctor of Teleocity

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    When I was learning to play back in the 60s, most players (not the pros) just had one decent guitar that just had to work no matter what song we were trying to cover. There were no effects except reverb and some crude distortion boxes. So we worked endlessly on technique and amp setup to coax what we needed from what we had. Mostly, we had no idea what gear was used on the recordings we were imitating.

    All different now. You can pretty much always find out about the original gear, and you can just buy that if you have the money.

    LP and Tele... Many people thought Jimmy Page used a Les Paul on Stairway, surprised to find out it was a Tele.

    They can both go a lot of the same places, that's for sure. But, they each have their own places where only they can go.
     
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    viking Friend of Leo's

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    There's something to it , I agree
    I only play LPs or Telecasters these days , don't even care what I bring , and play the same guitar every night the whole time.
     
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    JL_LI Friend of Leo's

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    A good guitar is one I can get my sound from, plus a few more that I like. My sound is the one I use to accompany myself on vocals. The middle pickup on my CS '69 Strat is perfect but I can get my sound on my other Strat, my Tele, my SG, and my Annie. I guess it could be said that I've spent a good few years trying to get all my guitars to sound alike. So Greg Koch being able to get his sound on a Tele and a LP doesn't surprise me at all. There are sounds unique to each of my guitars and I like to use them on occasion, but I like being able to find "my" sound on all of them.
     
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  10. rze99

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    For cases where the PAF are traditional and low wind and especially with P90s both with 50/ treble bleed yes, they can sound very alike. Especially when playing finger picking stuff like Greg does.

    for years I gigged a Les Paul Custom with coil taps and that could do a very close Telecaster impression as well as full on raaaawk god of course. Very versatile guitar. Not light though.
     
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    I use the middle position on some BB PAFs in an LP to get a tele-like tone. Lower output hums can be surprisingly bright with the right circuit and pots.
     
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    the 335 and 330 / Casino can do Tele too
     
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    Everything sounds the same through stacked fuzz boxes. Les Pauls just look uglier while doin it :D
     
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    No they don't.
     
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    Yes, they do.
     
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    :)
    ....all in the beholder... and all that.

    pax in terra
     
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    Most guitars can be made to have "your" tone IME. Just some technique adjustments and amp knob twistin'.

    That said, classic LP Standard/Custom and classic Tele are inherently far apart. A Strat would be farther, but the Tele isn't close IMO. It doesn't mean you can't get them into the same ballpark, though. Knobs exist for a reason.
     
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    :) Greg sounds like Greg, and we all can agree on that!
     
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    I have an E style with a Bootstrap Palo Duro bridge pickup, no switch. With the tone rolled off a bit and some dirt it sounds like a humbucker guitar. No kidding.

    The original PAF humbucker was designed to be a noiseless version of the P90, so it wasn't that far off in intent.
     
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    I spent years on an LP Standard. When I started doing studio gigs I added a Strat clone (G&L S-500), then an ES-335 that has become my main squeeze. Eventually needed a Tele sound and got one and was surprised to find that if I back down the treble I could get a surprisingly LP-ish sound. One of my last was a new LP with Burstbucker Pros. Surprise. With the treble fully open on it it can be surprisingly Tele-ish.

    Most likely preference 'twixt the two is down to form factor, experience, and personal taste.

    Bob
     
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