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Telecaster problem...not sure what it is?

Discussion in 'Tele-Technical' started by mobkon, Sep 18, 2010.

  1. mobkon

    mobkon TDPRI Member

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    Hey guys. My tele needs a setup, but just curious as to what needs to be done to fix this issue. The neck seems to be crooked and not lined up with the strings. As you can see, higher up on the neck the 6th string is practically off the neck while the 1st string has plenty of room. Is this micro-tilt adjustment? Im used to Gibsons mainly and never had to deal with this issue before.
    Looks like theres a glitch in the last picture of the bridge...seems to have repeated a part of the picture between E-A string saddles! Weird...

    Anyway, thanks for the help!

    P.S. excuse the hairy leg ;)

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  2. bottled

    bottled Tele-Meister

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  3. lonewolf

    lonewolf Tele-Meister

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    Fender necks often move around in the pocket over time. Sometimes it's because the neck mounting screws were not tightened down well, other times it just happens. There have been many fixes invented throughout the years, from pieces of screen wire, to bits of sandpaper, which may help somewhat. I think it's just something you have to deal with, and learn how to re-align the neck when it gets like that.

    The three bolt necks are usually the worst.

    By the way, don't go "gorilla" when it comes time to tighten those neck screws, or you can drive the neck plate right into the body, or strip out the holes.
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  4. lonewolf

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    Sorry I forgot to mention this, but Fender dealers received schematics, parts lists, and tech notes from the Fender company, many years ago (the "70's period for sure). I have a pretty fair collection of these. One that i don't have, and wish that I did, was a drawn illustration, of just how to re-align your neck. It showed a guitar being held on edge with one hand, while another hand pushed of the headstock, to force the re-alignment. I believe it used an arrow to indicate the force of pushing.
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  5. mort

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    Looks like everthing is aligned at the nut and the further you get toward the bridge, the further out of whack the strings are in reference to the center. It appears as if the neck is in line with the pickups as well, from what I can see. But once you get all the way down to the bridge, check out how far off center the bridge is from the bridge pickup. It appears as if the bridge was installed off center.

    I don't know how to fix the problem, but I bet that's it. Sucks too, probably not a quicky fix type thing:cry:
     
  6. boris bubbanov

    boris bubbanov Tele Axpert Ad Free Member

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    I'm not sure what's wrong with the guitar. I'm thinking it has 3 neck bolts and needs 4.

    :^)

    I could be wrong. The pictures have made me dizzy. :^)
     
  7. flag72

    flag72 Tele-Afflicted

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    well to me it also LOOK'S like the bridge is at fault it look like it needs to be move toward the bottom of the guitar.the string are not inline with the bridge PU.how to fix it mmmmm probebly need's a good guitar tech to relocate the bridge assembly...
     
  8. Jack Wells

    Jack Wells Doctor of Teleocity Ad Free Member

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    Me too. Any reason why you posted them up-side-down?
     
  9. Strat62

    Strat62 Friend of Leo's

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    Yep, that bridge is way off. It'll have to be removed, the holes plugged with dowels and then holes re-drilled. Only then will you be able to tell if the neck needs to be tweaked or not.
     
  10. jim_pridx

    jim_pridx Tele-Afflicted

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    I tend to think it might be a combination of the bridge being a little off as well as the neck pocket alignment. I might be inclined to try adjusting the neck at the pocket first just to see how far the strings will move over. Secondly, it's sometimes possible to slant the bridge saddles to one side for better alignment of the strings, Certainly, the latter isn't ideal, but it can help the overall alignment.
     
  11. homerzeppelin

    homerzeppelin Tele-Afflicted

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    If I were you, I'd try to just adjust the neck first. I agree that it isn't the "right" thing to do, but it is worth the shot.

    I have a Tele where I had the same issue. Bridge is also off center slightly. However, with some neck (mis)-alignment, the guitar now plays great and no one but me is the wiser! Hell, it might not be perfectly to print...but isn't that what "mojo" is all about!
     
  12. LoudTele

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    I agree. I had to do that on my first project tele.

    BTW, one of the tools I found helpful in aligning was a golf ball sized laser level. I set it on the headstock aligned with the notch in the nut, and aimed it at the saddle so I got a little red dot on each fret to show me where the string would be. I guess you could use string as well, but if you have one already, you might try it.
     
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