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Tele-Dano convertible mojo reviver ...

Discussion in 'Tele Home Depot' started by ModerneGuy, Aug 24, 2015.

  1. ModerneGuy

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    Electronics question...

    Unless someone wants to dissuade me, I'm going to go for 250k pot for the volume control, and a 1Meg tone pot. My other Dano-style build has the 100k/1meg concentric pots but as I'm predominantly a bridge position player I figure I'll get a bit of extra brightness with the 250k in what is somewhere between a neck and middle position placed pickup.

    Does this sound reasonable?

    In terms of the wiring I am otherwise thinking of an original type LP junior type of thing, probably with a .47 cap...

    thanks, Dario
     
  2. oldrebel

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    Wow, that looks great!!
     
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    Wow! First, nice build! It looks great!

    Second, the Danelectro stars must be coming into alignment because, with all the recent Dano inspiration here, I dug out that project about two weeks ago!

    I've started slinging paint, but don't get too excited... I'm still going to be moving very slowly trying to make time to complete it, but I really appreciate the mention.

    Anyway, yours is awesome! And moving SO fast!

    Keep up the good work! I can't wait to hear the finished product.


    John
     
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    I'm really diggin' this, Dario.
    I've been thinking along the same lines for something that has a bit more volume but still plays like an electric. Sometimes it seems even an unplugged electric is too loud though... (haha).
    I'm eager to see how this one turns out.
     
  5. ModerneGuy

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    Thanks Old Rebel, John and Chris. John, really nice to see you reactivating you build. Looking forward to seeing more.


    Chris, as happy as I am with my house (apart from the lack of a workshop:() sound really carries in it since the renovations - regular acoustics seems too in you face for late night noodling. In fact I've even had comments about my unplugged electronics - but maybe that's just about my playing...mmm


    A wiring question ...the no-name lipsticks I bought have three wires, but being a dumbass that knows nothing of electronics (yes, even googling has confused me on this), I only need two for my simple volume and tone setup. So which two wires to I use ...or do I join two of them together? Hope to get started on the wiring in the next couple of days so all suggestions welcome. Cheers


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  6. ModerneGuy

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    Ok, found this which sounds pretty sensible - I'm sure this is what I did last time I wired one up. Where you were...


    On this the bare would be the chassis or baseplate ground and the insulated wires would be the leads to the coil winding. The insulated wires can be positive or negative. Just be consistent or else you could end up with two pickups out phase with eachother. No tape is needed - bare and ground (one of the insulated wires) to a ground (such as the back of a pot) and the other insulated to the hot terminal on the switch.
     
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    The above sounds right. Since you're only using one pickup, it doesn't matter which of the colored wires are attached to the ground.
     
  8. ModerneGuy

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    Ok, it's finished. Wired it up last weekend and it worked first time. Played it for a few days and fine tuned the nut (I seem to have - hopefully only temporarily, misplaced my stewmac nut files:cry:). I then ended up taking the neck off and did some more tweaking on the frets and the truss rod, and it is now playing great. Here are some final photos and I'll try and do video soon so, if you're interested, you can get an idea of it's acoustic volume and tone, and what it sounds like plugged in.

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    ...and one of the back with a canine reflection....
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    cheers, Dario
     
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    Wow. It turned out great! Can't wait to hear what it sounds like.

    Reminds me I never got around to posting video of the Dano convertible remake I did a few years back. It was my first build and a gift for my daughter. Might have to wrestle it away from her for a few weeks.

    Congrats an a great job.
     
  10. Chordophonic

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    That really is very nice indeed, well done!
     
  11. Barncaster

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    That looks spectacular! Let's hear it!
     
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    Well done! Looks great. I love the soundhole binding!


    John
     
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    Stunning.
     
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    I'm impressed!
     
  15. ModerneGuy

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    Thank you all for your comments.

    dblues - I'd love to hear your build too. Is there a thread for it - I'll look into it!

    Barney - I have every intention of putting together some videos shortly, we'll see how nicely life plays with my evening schedule this week:p Have been impressed with the sound samples of some your lipstick winds - may have to have a word at some point.

    Some observations on how it sounds - acoustically it is louder than my tele thinline and previous Dano style build which makes sense as it has a larger acoustic chamber and is virtually hollow.

    It is very bright sounding though and I think it will sound better when the strings are a bit older and their highs have tamed a bit. I'm sure part of this is the tele bridge and string through design and I wonder how different it would sound with a floating tailpiece and wooden bridge - ala a proper convertible. The choice of timbers is also a factor - I'm sure using Masonite for the top and back would have given it a slightly duller (but not unattractive) and more compressed sound.

    Electrically I think this extra top end is helpful particularly given the positioning of the pickup. It sounds really clear and bell like when played clean, and though I'm not much of a neck pickup guy for rock sounds I've managed to get some pretty gnarly tones. Ok, I guess I'll try and cover off on all that on the video.

    cheers
     
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    Great work, very inspirational, I am working on Danlectro DC59 type build and was inspired by your build.
     
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    Thanks for that, I hadn't had any luck when searching for it. As I saw the first picture though I remembered it - really cool build and background story.

    Pemalato, obrigado. Look forward to seeing your build too. Have you got a build thread going? Where abouts in Portugal are you? I visited 20 years ago and really liked the place and would love to go back.

    There'll be a delay to any video/sound files. I spent a few hours today pulling the guitar apart and doing various things. Just didn't think it was playing as well as it should in several ways, and there were a few aesthetic things too - the binding was separating from the body in a few spots and the tape wasn't really masking some of the poor surface prep either, so I took it all off:(

    I've taken the neck off and very slightly reshaped the back of it and re-applied true-oil. I cut a new nut for it too and will fit that once the true-oil has cured properly. In good news I found my stew-mac nut files :p I'll probably do a bit of fret work and truss rod adjusting on it too. I had thought it was ok, but once I compared it to my DC59 style build I wasn't happy with the idea of my new build playing inferior to a previous build ....

    I spent a bit of time smoothing the sides of the body - there'll still be a few ridges but the uglier bumps have gone, and tomorrow I'll reapply the tape. The secret I think is to make sure you do not stretch the tape in the slightest, particularly around "the inner curves".

    later
     
  19. pemaleto

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    Iḿ trying to figure out how to make the thread (need to downsize the photos), but itś coming along, decided to gold sparkle the top, a spur of the moment thing. I live in Cadaval, about 70 km from Lisbon and 35 km from Peniche where the world surf championship was just held, but I'm originally from Ontario Canada.
     
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