Tele 4 way wiring problem

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  1. lespowl

    lespowl TDPRI Member

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    Hey y’all,
    I got a problem I can‘t seem to figure out myself.
    I installed a 4 way Setup into my partscaster build. Did the grounding on the neck pickup cover and wired after the usual diagram.
    Problem now is that the 1st position / neck only is dead, then 2 and 3 work, but 4 is no difference at all to position 3.

    Does this ring a bell to anyone?
    Don‘t know what to look for.

    Thank you for your troubleshooting.
    Paul
     
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  2. sjtalon

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    Loosen the switch screws and try it. Often the slot in the control plate is not long enough for the lever the throw all the way.

    You can file the slot longer if that's the problem. I used a real fine hacksaw blade.

    I tap the pickups with a paper clip when going thought the switch positions to verify what should be on or off. You can tell the difference between series and parallel as the series tap is muffled/darker or not such a tick tick tick.
     
  3. ArcticWhite

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    Post a picture of the wired up switch.
    Somebody will spot your problem pretty quickly.
     
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    eallen Friend of Leo's Silver Supporter

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    +1. You can also notch the switch lever where it contacts the switch plate on each side with a file.

    Eric
     
  5. lespowl

    lespowl TDPRI Member

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    Hi all,

    thank you so much for your help.
    The control slot is fine, I just checked it, but with it I found a spot that I missed when soldering.
    Now it is as follows: pos. 1 is still dead, but all other positions from 2-4 work, including the neck pickup.
    Why is just pos. 1 dead?
    Here‘s some pics, that might help solving
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    Thanks again for your help.
    Paul
     
  6. LowCaster

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    What wiring schematics did you follow? Most of them feature a jumper going from left to right.

    Mine follows a different layout (neck/series/parallel/bridge) but you’ll see the black wire in the center of the switch:

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    From the pictures, I'm going to guess a cold solder joint somewhere. All solder joints should be smooth and shiny.
     
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  9. lespowl

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    Hm, it might be the wire going from left to right. That one‘s missing in my schematic. For whatever reason...
    I‘ll try it tonight and see if it works.

    Many thanks.
     
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    And double check that you did not swap the neck and bridge wires.
     
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    Also check if the cavity is deep enough. I went from a box switch to an oak grigsby and I had clean out the cavity a smidge to get it to switch cleanly.
     
  12. lespowl

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    So I tried the wire going from left to right, soldered it and now everything works just fine.
    Best decision to install the 4-way. Sounds killer!

    thank y’all again. Great help. Much appreciated.

    Paul
     
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    :)
     
  14. lespowl

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    BTW. Here‘s the final project: an Mjt build blackguard. maybe the best sounding guitar I own.

    happy tellysunday.

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    Beautiful guitar!
     
  16. sjtalon

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    spectacular !!!!!!
     
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    sleazy pot pie Tele-Afflicted Silver Supporter

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    Nice looking guitar
    What pickups?
     
  18. lespowl

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    Went with Fender Nocaster 51s as a start. They sound pretty good but I also plan to try other sets like the Lollar Ts or such. Any recommendations?
     
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    No problem. When I first did my 4 way switch, the tone control didn't work at all.
    It sounded ok, but I thought I'd better put it right.
    Best mod ever.
     
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    Glad it worked out!

    A rare problem that once happend to me: the coil of the neck pickup shorted out against a polepiece (which then touched the cover). It was the ground side of the coil, so it still produced a sound, but wouldn't work in a 4-way. Took me ages to isolate the problem...
     
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