Tele 4-way switch w/single + mini-hum neck pup wiring?

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  1. GorgeousTones

    GorgeousTones Tele-Meister

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    Hey guys, I can’t find a wiring diagram for this specific setup. It’s a Fralin Blues special in the Bridge & A Seymour Duncan Firebird style mini-humbucker in the neck.
    -The majority of diagrams I could find describe the addition of 3rd lead to the neck pickup coming from the base or metal cover, I’m not sure.. But I think I remember reading that it’s not necessary for an uncovered neck position pickup??

    *The weird thing is the Fralin Bridge came with a 3rd lead, which is black and is soldered to the bottom baseplate. I’ve seen this before (for example when I bought a different Lindy Fralin single coil not part of a set) and I usually just ground it to the back of a pot like the other black lead and forget about it. I don’t think this is significant here but I figured I’d mention it just in case

    Anyway. Can anyone help me out with this I already tried wiring it a few different ways based on diagrams for pickup arrangements different than mine and couldn’t get it working right. Again it’s just a standard Tele single coil Bridge + A mini-humbucker with a shielded metal lead/two conductors if you count the grounded shielding.. Thanks guys!!
     
  2. archetype

    archetype Fiend of Leo's Silver Supporter

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    I'm watching this one, as I'm going to try a 4-way switch with a Firebird neck pickup and a '51 Nocaster bridge pickup.
     
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  3. eallen

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    I dont have one with your specific pups but I use this I drew up for all my SH builds. I lean towards Bill Lawrence's pups so that is what is drawn with duncan code listed. Your few number of wires on the mini HB likely won't have a coil split option so you would have to figure that option.[​IMG]

    Eric
     
  4. TRexF16

    TRexF16 Friend of Leo's Vendor Member

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    Is your neck pickup this one, with a traditional Braided shield/ground, and a single hot wire inside the shield?
    https://www.seymourduncan.com/pickup/antiquity-ii-firebird-bridge
    And you have a bridge pickup with a separate wire that just comes off the baseplate?
    Then I think this may be what you want.
    Tele 4-Way Neck Ground (Different).jpg
    The neck pickup shield goes to ground as the black wire in the picture above. I think the base plate wire from the bridge pickup becomes the green one. But I am not looking at your rig so I can't guarantee.

    Do the smarter guys here concur?

    Cheers,
    Rex
     
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  5. jimilee

    jimilee Tele-Afflicted Silver Supporter

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    So, would the three pickups then act like a three coil pickup the way 2 single coil pickups would act like a single 2 coil pickup?


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  6. eallen

    eallen Tele-Afflicted

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    After reading Rex and rereading the OP, I'm not one of the smarter guys but I concur.

    I missed the single with a braid on the HB. The simple limit of the mini-bucker verses a full means it is basically treated like an SS wiring without an extra neck wire for the cover.

    Eric
     
  7. GorgeousTones

    GorgeousTones Tele-Meister

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    -Yes my neck pickup is exactly that.. (P90/Vintage style metallic braided shield/ground with the hot lead inside it)

    The bridge position pickup is a bit odd. It’s a Lindy Fralin Blues Special that I bought direct from his website as a single (not part of a set). For those of you not familiar with Fralin, he puts a lot of emphasis on getting correct polarity/phase if you’re pairing a non Fralin with one of his. And he makes every possible effort to help you do so.

    *However, on his website I’ve seen him state; “we only sell our neck Tele pickups wired to the cover/third lead for phase switching, never our bridge pup’s”.. And I’ve never seen or heard of a Tele bridge wired this way. But I did receive one of his P90 voiced single-coil Strat pickups wire exactly the same way so..?

    *I tried wiring the 4-way switch according to a diagram similar to the one you posted but I couldn’t get it working. It may have been the diagram or it could’ve just been me and I made a mistake. I did read in a couple of other threads, that in order to do this with a non-splittable humbucker wired like mine you had to tear the pickup open and then add/change the wiring to make this work. I really hope that is not the case, as I’m not willing to do that to an expensive pickup that I really love!
     
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