Taking submissions : Worst 80’s Production Hall of Fame

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  1. PoorNoodle

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    Metallica - And Justice For All. I think many of the other examples in this thread have examples of bad tone and FX (like gate reverb) choices but at least the mixes are balanced. The Justice mix is just bad...ie they lost Jason’s bass...


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    Apparently, that was down to Lars. He was involved in the mix, IIRC.
     
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    Funny thing is, I recently bought a 30GB CP-70 sample library, and it's GLORIOUS!

    I guess one man's glory is another man's gory... :lol:
     
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    LMAO
     
  6. getbent

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    i think it is similar to what is happening with food... all these great flavors and influences exist and we are learning so much more about the chemistry of food and what is it giving us... crazy extremity in heat and over powering flavors that are like the 'compression' problem we have on the radio.

    subtlety and restraint and 'just right' are the center that would be nice to see again!
     
  7. Mike Eskimo

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    Great minds think alike.

    I don’t think this can be overstated . The completely empty but screaming-fast “vroom-vroom” brain of a “creative” person on an endless supply of the powder could hardly take in all the various avenues of artificial aural candy floss available to them.

    And they wanted to use them all.

    And don’t forget, you could still make money with recordings back then so advances were easy to come by and you could spend endless hours in the studio.

    And what did it get them ?

    By and large a sound that’s sneered/laughed at today.

    A sound that’s considered more dated than the average Sun Records or Chess Records session from 30+ plus years before.

    Still , if your material was strong enough , people remember the song and not the gloss.

    This one has the sheen, icy-cleanliness, and most of the earmarks of the mid 80’s but, the song is so great it punches through the wall of production

     
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  8. David Barnett

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    There are plenty.

    None of them were on the radio.
     
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  9. Mike Eskimo

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    ^^^On the other hand listen to warehouse songs and stories and even the monumentally titanic band as great as Hüsker Du still wasn’t so titanic and monumental that they escaped scott free
     
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    I heard a Roots Rock end of the spectrum album done by some group. The producer/engineer was the guy who did " Owner of a Lonely Heart". Great for that album , absolutely horrible there. Engineers/ producers suddenly thought they were artist or something and had to use ALL the tricks of their trade just to use them, regardless of what the music called for.Like a guitarist playing fast to show off when just a few notes would sound better.
     
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  11. David Barnett

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    Another example of that would be Dave Edmunds' production of The Fabulous Thunderbirds "Tuff Enuff".
     
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    TRUE> put on their first record (the girls go wild one) and then tuff enuff... I know which one sold, but I also know which one is better.
     
  13. Mike Eskimo

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    And the drag is that there’s a decent collection of songs on Tuff enuff.

    And I’ve often used the first two records as examples of production that is just fine.

    Meaning what things would you point out and try to make better? Five or six microphones and someone counts it off 1234 - everyone in the same room - start playing .
     
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    Pick a track from neil Young's Landing on Water. Those are some of the worst of 80's:

     
  15. Paul in Colorado

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    I was thinking the same thing as I read this thread. People should have gone to bed and come back to listen with fresh ears in the morning, but were so gakked up they just kept working anyway. "Sleep? I'll sleep when I'm dead!"

    Personally, I was into world and modern American acoustic music during this time, so I didn't hear a lot of the popular songs much. More David Grisman then Duran Duran.
     
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    There's this career destroying video (literally) from a musician who had earlier had a couple of descent tunes.
     
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    German tap dance artist Taco. This video would never be allowed today.

     
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    Robert Plant's 1983 album, The Principle of Moments is a strange critter - I have to admit to loving it back in the day, and would still listen to it today if I had my turntable set up. I'm listening to Big Log at the moment, and there it is... the glistening, polished-to-a-fault sound with an almost too harsh percussion sample and the out of phase Strat sound that was king back then.
    What a beautiful song - but listening it it now, I can see how much better it would have been with a less trendy approach.

     
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    Edmunds' production was even worse on the followup album, "Hot Number". Totally ruined that album.
     
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    That's one of my favorite Springsteen tunes. The tone on the solo could just cut you.
     
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