swells with volume knob

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  1. jwmanz

    jwmanz Tele-Meister

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    I would like to downsize my pedal board and the my volume pedal is a large, underutilized pedal. However, it is really handy when I need to do some ambient swells. I just can't seem to pull off a swell fast enough on my Tele. I guess this is a bit of a silly question, any tips to pulling off swells with my volume knob?
     
  2. 68tele

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    Hmmm...I just wrap my pinky around the vol knob - never been an issue, but then again my fingers are a foot long.

    Practice is the key.
     
  3. jwmanz

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    Yeah, I do have a short pinky. And I feel like the taper on the volume is too long to get it from 0 to 10 in one motion.
     
  4. Old Tele man

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    For clean finger swells, the pot MUST have 'smooth/low-resistance' rotation. If there's a felt washer under the pot knob, think about removing it, and definitely "lube" the pot guts for cleanliness and reduced friction.
     
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    I just roll across my pinky and ring finger. After doing it for many years, I've learned to accurately hammer (and mute) as I want with my fretboard hand. Takes some practice, but no big deal.
     
  6. Cheap Trills

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    Have you considered flipping your control panel so the volune is closer to the bridge?
     
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  7. jwmanz

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    Ok, another stupid question, but do the silver knobs just come off if I pull hard enough? I'm at work at the moment so I can't reach for my guitar.
     
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    Is it as simple as unscrewing the panel and flipping it or the wires need to be re-soldered?
     
  9. Cheap Trills

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    It matters how it's wired right now and how much slack there is. You could open it up and just see if you have enough slack in the wires to move things around. You'll want to remove the pots and switch from the control plate, flip the plate, then see if you can move things where you want them without re-soldering. Don't forget to flip the switch so the pickup positions make sense.
     
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    There's a set-screw in the side of the metal silver knurled knob.
     
  11. Obsessed

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    It is the main reason I have the reverse control plate, but nevertheless, I still like my volume pedal for awesome swells and fade outs. Keep the tank and I know it can't be as large or heavy as my Fender Classic RI.
     
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    Like any other technique, have you practiced it?

    Or did you just try it a few times and felt it wasn't working out?

    You certainly may need a new/different volume pot, but like any other skill on the guitar, it takes time to master.

    Before you start changing things, just work on it as part of your practice routine for a week, and then if it's not what you want it to be, think about a hardware change. Even if you go that route, you will have improved your skill at it.
     
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    You need a Strat! It's the only thing it does better than a Tele. My short fingers are just not comfortable on a Tele when doing swells, even with the control plate flipped.
     
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    In this video, Bill Kirchen describes how to flip the control plate, exchange the volume and tone knobs, and flip the selector switch. It sounds easy to do! He also demonstrates his volume swell technique after switching everything around.

     
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    Practice IS the "key" of course.
    But some things may be helpful. Different knob knurls, different pots, flipped control plate -all may give you the feel you need for improved practice.
    One tip I got from a VERY skillful player might help:
    Make sure you pick the strings SOLIDLY before rolling the swell up. This may need to be a sort of exaggerated attack. The strings need to be hit hard enough that they'll be ringing well as your roll the volume up. Otherwise you loose sustain before the swell effect is realized.
    (I haven't practiced this enough to excel at it, -but practice and a firm, controlled attack do seem key...)
     
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    Keep your volume pedal.
     
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    I reversed the control plate so it is volume , tone, switch , so I could do swells with my small finger.

    I have a volume pedal but it is huge as you said, and I dont like the travel on the pedal to get the effect i want ,I may have to adjust the rise of the pot so the motions are not so animated to use it.
     
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    Yep. Also consider getting a log taper pot.
     
  19. littlebadboy

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    I use my "slow gear" function on my Boss GT-1. Of course, there is an individual pedal, the Boss Slow Gear SG-1.


    I demo'd the slow gear of my GT-1 here: (Go straight to 1:13)


    Good luck!
     
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    Granted, I can't actually do swells without touching the volume pot, but I never touch it. No volume pedal. I'm a rock guy by default. I vary volume by pedals and pick attack.
     
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