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Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by Slim Chance, Apr 1, 2020.
sure it is, it's just as useful/less as every other stupid label
And I get that, what always boggled my mind was none of those bands sounded alike. Alice In Chains sounds nothing like Pearl Jam sounds nothing like Soundgarden sounds nothing like Nirvana sounds nothing like Mudhoney sounds nothing like etc.
Why isn't it? If skiffle and rockabilly count as genres, why doesn't grunge? Most grunge "artists" hate the name and don't like to use it, but tough, they don't get to make that call, we do.
Compared to the Beach Boys or Beethoven, those bands sound exactly the same. It's just a matter of perspective.
A skiffle band has very common characteristics that define the genre. Rockabilly too. Bands from the 'grunge' era not so much. It's easier to define 'grunge' bands according to what they were not. They weren't glam rock, metal, for example. There was alot of individuality in that era, unlike today where most rock sounds like a brand of manufactured pop.
I think Puddle of Mudd sounds a LOT like Nirvana, at least in this one
I learned all these songs back then. Grunge? Idk, idc.
So if someone catalogs the characteristics that define "grunge" then you are ok with it?
Grunge fuses elements of punk rock and heavy metal, featuring the distorted electric guitar sound used in both genres, although some bands performed with more emphasis on one or the other. Like these genres, grunge typically uses electric guitar, bass guitar, drums and vocals. Grunge also incorporates influences from indie rock bands such as Sonic Youth. Lyrics are typically angst-filled and introspective, often addressing themes such as social alienation, self-doubt, abuse, neglect, betrayal, social and emotional isolation, psychological trauma and a desire for freedom.
Also, a lot of that "individuality" began to look like uniformity after a while. Stone Temple Pilots were cast early on as a Pearl Jam clone (not to say they were) and all the indifference and flannel began to look like a costume if you watched it enough. The genre, and how it was marketed are sorta two different discussions.
Call it a hunch. But I bet wondering if 'grunge' is a genre or not was low on OP's concerns. OP wants some easy songs to learn from the 'grunge era'. Does that clear things up enough? Sheesh.
Yeah well, he can work the Google on the internet machine if he really wants some ideas. Otherwise, we're bored and probably so is he, so ....
Jumping between multiple threads, I didn't pay attention to what thread I was responding in thinking that this was another thread. Point taken.
I might add that "Back In My Day" no song was easy starting out, and there was no YouTube. We had to spend allowance money on guitar rags and learn Steve Vai songs too. Failing that, you sat down with your tape machine and tried to figure it out the old fashioned way, trial and error using your ears! Oh, and grunge is a sellout. DONT SELLOUT.
Looks like he was good to go by post #12. Anything after that is..... us... being.... helpful. Yeah, that's the word I was looking for. Helpful.
Yep, we bicker because we care.
Barefoot in the snow. Uphill. Both ways.
Wait I dont think we covered the grunge era enough. Commence with the pedantic posts!
That reminds me, a frequent refrain from grunge artists was that other artists are sellouts and you shouldn't sell out. I think that was part of the whole "disaffected youth" schtick. Seems so conformist now.
That perception tanked some bands reputations, IIRC. Then again some embraced it. Reminds me that I learned all of Aenima back then too, and this retorts that whole 'sell out' thing....