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Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by schmee, Nov 26, 2018.
I bet you can run on snow like a jackrabbit.
You're assuming I can still run!
Point taken but I’ll take 100 string gauge discussions over 1 political discussion. But that’s just me.
I used to use 12s on my LPs, 11s on my longer scale guitars. Now it’s 10s on my LP, 9s on my longer scales, except for my 24.75” Wildkat which is currently strung with EB Super Slinky 9-42s. I broke a string at church and they were the only sets I had in my gig bag. I heard no difference in tone, and the guitar has never been easier to play. I was concerned because internet wisdom said that Bigsbys don’t stay in tune with lighter gauges. I haven’t found that to be the case at all.
I play better when the guitar is more “pliable”, and that’s where “tone” really lives: a good instrument played as well as you can play it. Whatever gets you there.
10s on electric and 11s on acoustic. I am a simple fellow. I have tried the 7s, they are like hair. Your touch has to be so light. Not for me at all
Honestly, have you guys heard anything great out of Gibbons recently? I love his playing on the early albums, and when I see him now the tone and feel is not what it was. He plays with a poop ton of gain, literally it's like a heavy metal sound, totally compressed. Maybe the light strings are part of it. Or just that he is just collecting paychecks these days. I doubt he was using 7s on Fandango or Tres Hombres when his tone was killer.
Regardless, I'm of the age that was heavily influenced by SRV and felt that the heavy strings were essential. Turns out, his strings weren't all that heavy after all. His high and low E strings were very heavy, but the middle four strings were straight from an 11 gauge set. Plus he was tuned down a half step, which makes them more like 10s.
Hendrix had awesome tones and played 10-38.
It's personal preference; great tones can be had either way. I prefer to have some resistance and have to work for it a bit, and I tend to play harder when I'm playing live so heavier strings work for me. I do enjoy the ease of vibrating chords with lighter strings, the ease of pull offs, and the bloom of the softer strings. There are tradeoffs.
On a Tele bridge PU, having lighter strings can be a benefit in taming the icepick. They kind of act as a limiter as you can only get so much volume out of them. The heavier strings have more headroom and are more spikey. You can tame that with a compressor, so again, it's just your preference.
I wear the same size shoe at 67 yrs old that I did in my late teens. That jar of mercury I played with as a kid must have stunted my growth. Hmm....on second thought that may explain a lot of things.
Ooh, a bit of a weight lifter thread!
I started in 1980 on acoustic with a "medium" gauge .013 set.
When I got an electric I was told that a .010 set was the normal gauge, so I went with that but also tried a .009 set for some reason, I guess to see how far I could bend, just to experiment.
Back then I was at my finesse limits controlling my RH technique with the tens, and could not control the nines.
I guess I was also still learning to make upstrokes sound the same as downstrokes.
That was a surprisingly difficult learning process!
Stuck with .013's on acoustic for decades.
Some years back after the internet learned me up I tried .011's, sounded the same.
This year in response to my hands being beat up from all my manly adventures, I tried hybrid slinky's .009- .046. Not ready to commit to .009- .038, since I read on the internet that tone is in the heavy strings.
No problem with RH control now, guess I learned some stuff since I tried .009s in 1980.
Tone? Sounds the same.
Has anyone done a double blind test to see how many could tell the difference between nines and tens?
Manly string gauges are a sub for banned topics we reeeaaallly want to talk about.
Aww give 'em a break, they're prob bummed that Abba cancelled the tour and need to vent.
Just do a nice set up and use whatever gauge you feel comfortable with.
Hmm have used 10's on electric since the 80's...sometimes 00.9....I like the tension and sound of 10's...stopped thinking about it many many many years ago...
On my acoustic it is 12-54....I like the sound and feel of those...so also stopped thinking about it...again a long long time ago....
Only thing I do is to figure out what brand the guitar likes to use....on some I like EB's, on others it is D'Addario's....
On my electric it like Balanced tension XL's...on my acoustic it is EB Everlast...
Heavier gauge strings are better for poly guitars since the poly doesn't breathe as well as nitro.
If you try different string gauges you must adjust your setup or else it isn't a fair test. If you have a neck set up for 10s and you go to 9s, for example, the neck is going to lose
some of its bow due to the lighter tension. The action will get lower and you may get string buzz. You shouldn't blame that on the strings, though. Typically, a quarter turn of
the truss rod will be all you need to get back to a good setup again. If the nut is cut properly it should typically tolerate moving up or down at least one string gauge or so. You may
also have to adjust saddle height slightly, and possibly the intonation slightly as well. What I find is that once I get a guitar properly setup with whatever gauge of strings, what I mainly
feel is a difference in string tension, and what I mainly hear is a difference in tone. But everything else is just fine-- action, intonation, tuning stability.
Heavier gauge just sounds better to me and i play w crazy gain. Every time I play my bass, I m wishing my guitar interacted the same way. I noticed at least 2 post mentioning that they used lighter on Gibson scale and heavier on Fender. This seems backwards to me. At pitch , Gibson scale lengths are slightly looser, but harder to bend.
I can’t use anything lighter than 11’s on my electrics when I’m doing a lot of acoustic gigging too. The acoustics get 12’s, cause they just sound so much better that way. So when I do three or four acoustic gigs in a week and then try to play 10’s on electric I’m all over the damn place. They feel way too slinky. When I’m gigging mostly electric I’ll do 10’s. I’m older now and I will admit the heavier gauges are starting to have an effect on my hands and even my left elbow.
I'm partial to .010's.
Lighter than that, I feel like I'm mangling the guitar.
yes I remember this topic from a far away time and place, however, playing lap steel and slide guitar the extra-usions of "13 - 56" set is a painless exercise over flowing with harmonic goodness.
Apparently the Rev Billy G is currently using .007's, sez his tech ,who also mentioned Billy G never breaks a string.
speaking of modern guitar porn lore.