Strat Sound?

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  1. Pineears

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    I can’t remember, haven’t had a strat for 5 yrs. What does the bridge plus mid position relative to just bridge and just mid sound like. I just dropped a mid into my Tele and the bridge plus mid sounds weak and uninteresting. Mid alone sounds great, it’s a Cavalier Lioness (very straty).
     
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    A lot of people describe it as "quacky".
     
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    The quack sound.
     
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    The whole song is drenched in position 4 on a Strat, but the solo starts ~ 3:00.
     
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    There will be some phase cancellation that yields the "squak". Think later Albert Lee, for instance.
    I would consider playing around with pickup heights to optimize abailable swith selections for your own playing style.
    I roll the volume knob on the guitar around a lot while playing, so that volume dip is "fixed" quickly. I never run the guitar volume wide open because the amp is always running more than I need.
    I never measured bridge (or middle) pickup distance from the saddles on a Strat or Tele, but that placement really effects tonality. They may be different enough to un-Strat your Strelecaster some.
     
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    A+
     
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    Position 4?
     
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    Whenever I listen to this I get terrific GAS for a Strat.

    Then I throw on Brothers In Arms and I add a bit of Les Paul GAS to the experience.

    Double trouble.
     
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    It sounds weak and uninteresting...
     
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    Is it wired up right, it sounds like you might have them out of phase?
     
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    it sounds like a filter on some frequencies.
     
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    I play a lot of arpeggios, single note lines, and position two has an almost brittle, wiry (but pleasant) brightness to it when playing single notes... A little thicker around the bottom but very bright at the top. Very chimey. I don't use it much for strumming ... But for the single note chime it's great.
     
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    The intro to "Sweet Home Alabama" (and a lot of the rest of the recording) is pure Strat middle+bridge.
     
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    It’s wired right I’ll get to height adjustments later today. Im waiting for a pickguard. 3 position switch, no neck pup. BADEF49F-8236-420B-9AF1-F53DDCA12962.jpeg
     
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    @Pineears you may not like the in between positions.

    Something that helped mine out the most was to switch from tradition wiring to Eric Johnson wiring. It’s the jimmy Vaughn wiring with bigger capacitors.

    Then I raised the middle pickup until the in between positions are about as loud as the neck and bridge. Works for me.
     
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    My mission was to get 3 positions I like. Before (standard 2 pup), I liked bridge and bridge plus neck. Now I like bridge or mid.
     
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    Should be a major quack (on a strat at least). Check with Rob, you may have to reverse to the leads on one of the pickups to get them in phase. IIRC it's also Rob who pays attention to the polarity of the magnets and he can direct you on how to reverse the polarity using a magnet.
     
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    This is the first song I think of when I think position 4:

     
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    It should sound like this:
     
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    The quack positions are slightly weaker than the other 3 positions due to phase cancellation, but not dramatically weaker. If dramatically weaker you may have wired out of phase and should try flipping the wires on the middle pickup. This is easy to do if you mix something like Fender and Seymour Duncan pickups because they often have exactly opposite wire color codes.
     
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