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Strat saddle sizes?

Discussion in 'Stratocaster Discussion Forum' started by doghouseman, Nov 3, 2020.

  1. doghouseman

    doghouseman Tele-Meister

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    Anyone know what should go onto a 91 American Standard Strat?

    I didnt realize there were three different sizes for a Strat saddle.

    I bought both the 2 1/6 and the 2 1/8.

    I assume if I dont use the right one I might have tuning problems????
     
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    I dont know about tuning issues, but you want the right ones. Mine are all 2-1/16 import spacing. I converted my 99 American Strat (I think it was 2-3/16) to import spacing by changing the bridge. The inserts nest against each other with the correct ones. No space between and if you use too wide ones, your screws will be angled or bent.
    I like the satin finish SS sintercast ones myself, but the original bent metal type are fine.
     
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    are you saying this is on your import? SO the 2 1/16 is the import spacing? Not an America Standard?
     
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    2-1/16 is import spacing, but there may have been some US ones like that, I dont really know. The more modern US seem to be wide causing the high E string rolloff complained about. But '91...? hmmm
    Have you measured your string spacing on the '91? That's all you need to know.
    You can just measure the distance hole 1 to hole 6 on the trem plate also. The strings are same spacing as the screws on mine. There were some years with offset screws I guess...
     
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    Am Std and most of the other USA models use the saddles that fit the 2 1/16” spacing.

    Of course vintage reissue models have the wider 2 7/32" spacing saddles.

    Callaham guitars has a list on their website of the different saddle sizes and applications for MIJ, MIM, USA Strats.

    Bridge info from Callaham

    https://www.callahamguitars.com/tech_compatibility_strat.htm

    Tuning wouldn't be affected by the width of the saddles, what could change is how close the low and high E strings are to the edge of the fretboard.
     
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    Fender doesn't use 2 1/8" on any Strat bridge to my knowledge, but that spacing is found on some Wilkinson, Gotoh, and Kluson bridges that fit Strat mounting specs.
     
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    Some Japanese Stratocaster models did use 2 1/8" (54mm) spacing. Otherwise, vintage 2 7/32", modern 2 1/16".
     
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    This ain't everything but may help:
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    Be VERY carefull.
    Only original Fender "OFFSET screw" saddles will do. (Or the offset screw GRAPH TECH replacement saddles I also think Glendale make these but they cost like a bazillion $$$)

    https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0002KZE7M/?tag=tdpri-20

    Anything else is throwing away your money and will NOT fit.
     
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    I have been using the non-offset saddles for awhile. I have not noticed any problems using the non-offset saddles.
     
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    Then either the guitar, or at least the bridge is not a 91 Am Std Strat

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    Fender American Standard Strat bridge 1987-2007
     
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    I think you are correct. i think i am using the wrong saddles.
     
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    I have a 91 Am Std Strat I bought new.
    It has the bridge and offset saddles @beagle shows in his post #12 above.
     
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    Interesting .. this doesnt show off set saddles for the American Standard.
     
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    They do a kit for it though, offset saddles and all

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    No,these are vintage style cheap bent steel saddles that for some unexplained reason are considered "better" by some vintage nuts :)

    The cast steel block saddles of the AS are a vastly better design since they don't allow string slippage and I also like their more punchy ,balanced and solid sound way more than the bent steel ones.
     
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    by "they" you mean Callaham?
     
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    That's where the diagram came from.
     
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    Yeah, it's the Callaham diagram I think, with the note I added.
    I too like the sintercast SS inserts Nick Fanis mentions. Not that I think you can hear any difference, but they allow for a lot of height adjustment thread length, thus eliminating findingor filing the right length adjustment screws.

    With bent saddles, you only have maybe 1/16" or less of threaded area. With cast saddles, you can use short screws so they dont stick up and gouge your hand. Some of the Super Strats etc used the cast ones but Squier did also. They are not expensive.
     
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