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Strat Quack

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by Masmus, Jan 12, 2021 at 9:55 PM.

  1. Masmus

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    I'm not interested in the sound just wondering when the term came into popular use. I don't remember hearing it in the 70's and 80's. For some reason the term has always bugged me since I don't think quack actually describes the sound.

    I reserve the right to be completely wrong.
     
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    i don't really think "quack" either, i think "glassy". otherwise, i can't answer your question. i guess people like ducks more than glass.
     
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    Some like glass ducks. It's all good.

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  4. DougM

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    It used to be called out of phase, which it isn't, so someone somewhere came up with this term, and it stuck. Quack is more appropriately a description of the sound of an auto wah IMO.
     
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    I got no time for the quack.
     
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    I always liked Duane Allman's description of the comparison between his and EC's guitars on the Layla album. "...The Fender is more like a sparkling clear sound, and the Gibson is just a full-tilt screech"
     
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    The first I heard of it was to describe the Acoustic Guitar Bridge Pick-ups.
    They called it the Peizo Quack.

    Not sure how it made it to Strats.
     
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    Describing sound is hard. I would be interested to read just what's going on in that position, and which frequencies are being cancelled or amplified.

    I guess at the end of the day, 'quack' is a useful term as long as everyone knows what you're referring to.
     
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    I thought the strat quack is referring to the sound on the fourth position on the five way switch
     
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  10. DougM

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    It is used to describe the 2 and 4 positions, the middle pickup with either the bridge or neck
     
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    When was this?
     
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    Quack is referred to positions 2 and 4.


    ...And it is because it sounds BAD. Like a drunken duck. Is the worst sound of a guitar ever, Period. I really can't stand it
     
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    It always sounded much more like a 'cluck' than a Quack to be. ..Sultans...
     
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    I sold a lot of Strats at a guitar shop that was and is still a strong Fender dealer from 1981 to 1985. Most country guitar players, like guys in decent bands referred to the sound as quack. I think the term is fine and I love the sound.

    Acoustic players also use the term when they’re referring to under saddle Piezo pick ups like a K&K Mini system. I have K & K Mini units in several Martin’s and I think they sound natural. Taste is taste. Nothing is right or wrong, I think.
     
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    It depends on whether the middle is RWRP too, right?
     
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    I’ve always seen it referred to as quack but I’ve just been playing since around 2000. Quack or not, I love those positions on a Strat.
     
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    No, that only affects whether it's humbucking in those two positions, and has nothing to do with the "quack" tone, which is because of the distance between the two pickups, and the phase cancellation that occurs because of it. The middle pickup has only been RWRP in more recent guitars, and some Strat sets still don't have that, but old Strats and sets without a RWRP middle pickup will still "quack" on those two positions.
     
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    Hmmm... I know I’ve heard way worse sounds from a guitar. And as far as Strats go, for me, the neck and middle is the best sound.

    Capgun
     
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    No idea where it came from, but the term is broadly understood and in my head not a bad description of the 2 & 4 position sound.
     
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    And what I've read on this forum is that strats 'quack', and teles 'cluck'.
     
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