strat build(s) 3 and 4...

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  1. mistermikev

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    so got one neck profile done... but I was out of breath a few times... but then I'm old and in rough shape so... fairly thin profile ended up at .77 at the first and .90 at the 12th... the asym is quite nice as you can get a nice thicker feel on the low side but slide your thumb towards the high e and it feels very fast/thin.

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    a shot of my cavity prep (no jokes please): put some true oil in there then did some shielding paint after.[​IMG]

    so then clamp city...

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    had to take several breaks as it was killing my back to use this sander but finally done with that part anyway!

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    nice solid join between the mahog and maple

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    so keeping an eye on weight... looks like 3lb 8oz body, 1lb 5oz neck, 2oz per pickup so 8oz, 1lb 3oz bridge, 8oz tuners so 7lb? still will be removing some pickup wood and a deep belly cut - I'm guessing that will take about 12oz off so estimating just over 6lbs here.

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    got a little hairy this week when I dry fit my top and cut the neck pocket for my set neck version. the neck needs to be glued before I attach the top... but wouldn't be able to cut the top with the neck installed so it's a catch 22.

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    now to deal with the rounded corners... I'm not that great with chisels... but give me a laminate file and I'm right at home (see below)

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    spent a lot of this week building/testing my binding jig... required quite a bit of tweaking. Added and then removed springs, changed the length for tension several times... to get it just right. these drawer slides have built in mechanism/springs for making a 'soft close' which is nice. the carriage doesn't just drop... it eases back into position.

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    rebuilt my plexi piece because I couldn't cut the last 1/8" right up at the neck pocket - literally was that close. So rebuilt and now it has plenty of room.

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    it works pretty intuitively. nice and straight.

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    It is perfect everywhere except right at the highest points...you can kind of see here. My donut was simply a plumbing piece that is a cover for faucet pipe. had a 7/8" hole already, and has a nice slope. It is a hair too large (approx 1.5") around and this is preventing complete flattness on most of the guitar. The two closeups below show that it drifts almost a 1/16th at those spots.

    For this guitar: it will kind of be cool. There is going to be some manual shaping of the 1/2 round as it won't dig in as much on the sides... but will dig in fully at the back. This should follow that pretty good so I'm going to use it as is... but will likely build a new donut at the point where I use it again.

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    don't think I'm bob villa or anything but just thought it might be nice to show a time lapse of my set neck carving... here it is with the facets drawin:

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    halfway through the first facet (3mins)

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    facet 1 done:

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    then hold at 67.5 degrees and facet 3 done:

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    sm thing on the other side... about 10-15mins per side total. this side shows them after being blended together:

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    move my clamps and do the vallute

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    the blend the vallute/heel on the spindle:

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    thanks to vallute, heel truss, ebony overlay and fretboard, and 1.75 width at the nut... this thing is very rigid. can't bend it at all yet it's .786 thick at the 1st. no flex in the headstock at all.[​IMG]



    the wood I used here is something I have a lot of. wanted to use it for this neck to see if it would be "pretty enough" for a body. It has all these 'brown specs" and it didn't occur to me till now what they are - or at least what I think they are: ambrosia? there are no holes anywhere and I thought ambrosia typically would have that. they are just tiny versions of what looks like ambrosia here and there. Would love some enlightenment on this topic. [​IMG]


    for the bolt neck... i wanted to get my neck attached before I cut the pickup and trem cavities from the top... so even though I hadn't cut my neck relief on the back... I drilled my ferrule holes to depth and bolted her up.

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    drew my neck lines on the body and checked it against the top centerline - looking good. then used a level and shims to get my top sitting flat on the radius and clamped it down ensuring my template was matching up with my centerline. used a combo square to ensure the but end was sitting correct above my binding rabbet.

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    routered out my pickups and trem cavity...

    took the whole thing off and set it at an angle to do the jack plate...

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    glued up my set neck version... MORE CLAMPS!!![​IMG]

    and removed all the clamps (28hrs later... 24 to dry and 4 to remove all the clamps!)...

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    followed basically the sm proceedure for the set neck but had to elevate my template 3/8" to sit on top of the fretboard...[​IMG]

    and all done w that!

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    just been kind of driven lately. having a lot of fun. so got my final binding channel in on both. decided I'm just going to do one layer. jig worked pretty flawless altho there is a tiny bit of flex in the plexi that made me look hard... still came out perfect:

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    did the sm for my bolt version... for some reason my first pass on the bolt left a little ledge... probably router was sitting a hair dif in the base... totally ok as my binding is just below it.

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    did my neck heel carve as well tonight. started with a router...

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    then went for a scraper. first time really using one and I can see why so many fall in love. between that and an orbital sander 15mins and done.

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    so... did my belly curve tonight... it's a big'un at 1 1/8" deep... but i have a big belly so it's just my size!

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    put in my steps...[​IMG]

    worked it with a card scraper...[​IMG]

    and sanded it up with the osc. [​IMG]

    it feels like a pair of orthepedic shoes. sits more angled than a typical strat and I love it... with the guitar on one hip this giant body feels super thin and sleek. [​IMG]

    earlier this morning with the two sisters together...

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    got my final set of pickups on the way... and there is some alnico 2 in there (yes 2!).

    set neck will be higher output A5 9.5k/A5 8.6k in bridge pos and A5 5.6k/A2 5.6k in the neck two...

    bolt will get A5 8.6k/A5 7.4k in the bridge and A5 5.6 / A2 5.6 in the neck

    should probably just put the set neck next to my marshal and the bolt next to my fender but I'm splitting hairs!

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    Wow man. Some great progress since I last read this, and they’re looking fantastic!
     
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    thank you, thank you very much!
     
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    Great skills Mike! Top shelf mate!!!!

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    really really cool!
     
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    Everything is looking real great! Excellent work
     
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    Did you just bend the tops to fit the radius without any heat or steam? Looks like you got a good glue joint so please share anything you can about that portion. That's a great effect.

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    thank you sir!

    I appreciate the response!

    thank you... lotta work but having some fun!
     
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    originally I was thinking I might have to thin the top in the cavity areas to facilitate bending... or steam it, but when I tried it -it was easy. 1/4 would bend over it with just the power of my hands... so just used a sh17 ton of clamps (earlier in the thread there are pictures)! thank you for noticing!


    right now I am struggling with binding on both versions.
    on the bolt - my rosewood binding is .097 thick and those upper horns are tight so... got one half bent close in about 6hrs of work! going to have to build some forms to clamp/glue it and the will have to glue 3" at a time - then wait several hours. It's looking great but it is going to be a long process!

    On the set version... when I put on my roundover the binding was really thin where it met the body. So thin it would show the burn marks left by routing the binding channel - had not anticipated this. Also the roundover didn't treat the binding well. It's pretty minor but I won't be happy with it so... will have to strip the binding, reroute the channel, sand out any burn marks and redo. long story short... will be a while before the next update!

    Thank you all for your constant support and encouragement!
     
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    Haha. So in response to your last post comment, “...will be a while before the next update!”... I guess we have to say...

    ...Elvis has left the building! :p
     
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    well, at least someone caught my reference! full disclosure my parents have pics of me as a wee lad with a silk shirt all unbuttoned and sunglasses lip-sinking to heartbreak hotel.
    as it turns out I'm making good progress. I got my set neck version completely unbound. made some adjustments to my binding jig and rerouted it - turned out much better! channel is cleaner and no burn marks. working on re-binding it now and taking my time so... hope to have something to take a pic of this weekend! (hate to break your hearts but you won't be quite rid of me yet!)
     
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    You have amazing woodworking skills Mike! I love them both. They will be awesome guitars.
     
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    thank you sir! I appreciate you taking the time!
    afa woodworking skills: I stand on the shoulders of giants. There are many here (guitarbuilder, ronkirn, mojotron come to mind) and on other forums (prostheta, scottr, andyjr1515... many others) whom have inadvertently been great teachers via their threads/videos/advice/inspiration!
     
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    I agree they are great teachers from whom I learned a lot too. Still, you are a great learner/student. Your work is splendid. Forgot to mention it in my previous post, but I really dig that heel contour you did on the bolted neck. Very nice.
     
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    thank you sir! you know, I was surprised how good the access is on the bolt version. It's about the same feel on either to get to the 22nd fret. On the bolt version the 22nd is a bit further away from the neck pickup so I 'spose it's not a completely fair comparison... but I am very pleased at how easily I can reach the 22nd on either. Way better than any of my other strats.
     
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    Wow, I'm inspired by your work! I love my "uni"-carved builds - I play them everyday. I can't wait to see more!!
     
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    thank you mojotron... means a lot given your body of work. thank you for taking the time.
     
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