Still in awe of how Clapton managed it... (Live at Filmore D&TD)

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  1. marc2211

    marc2211 Tele-Meister

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    How, just how?

    To be specific, *THAT* tone on the Derek and the Dominos 'Live at Filmore' album. I've had the album for 20+ years, but still am open mouthed and just don't get it when I really listen to it.

    A Strat, wah pedal, and arguably either a dual showman/Sunn solid state... it doesn't add up! A half cocked Wah always on != creamy santana like sustain, piercing attack, borderline break up - it blows my mind.

    I've always been a Clapton fan (Mainly in Cream, D&D and some later stuff), but he shows his genious here.

     
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    AND.....blitzed out of his head on drugs and alcohol! While I've NEVER liked the recorded Layla (because of Duane's slide) the D&D congregation was truly amazing.
     
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    You don’t like Duane’s slide?


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    Clapton is so important to the development of blues/rock solo guitar, it’s almost impossible to quantify.
    I personally love his songwriting above all his myriad skills, but I was 10 when I first heard Sunshine Of Your Love.
    It was dark, scary, mysterious and completely compelling.
    Every garage band (and there were lots) in my hood had a wannabe Clapton.
    I became one, too.
    The man’s been around since 63-64.
    He’s been serving up great, and I do mean great music since he arrived.
    No one touches his degeee of skill, taste, longevity or
    versatility.
    I’m eternally grateful to the man!
     
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    Credit for half of that sound goes to a loose left hand (sometimes the stew is perfect).
     
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    Sorry, no I don't.
    Guys like David Lindley and Lowell George are GREAT on slide, but Duane Allman (particularly on Layla) was shrill and painfully piercing.....plus it just NEVER stopped. I know this is heresy to many of you, but that's it. I just don't know what Clapton was thinking.
     
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    I've always thought the Live Derek and the Dominoes was mainly Brownie into some 100 watt Marshalls left over from the Cream and Blind Faith days,
     
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    I saw them (without Duane) and they were great!
     
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    One of the regrets of my life was turning down the chance of seeing D&D in a club about 10 mins from my front door in August 1970, for £1. I wasn’t at all interested in electric music, or the young lady who is offered me the ticket. Oh well.
     
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    Yeah, I didn't like the slide sound at the end of Layla - but Duane's slide work for the intro to Statesboro Blues on Live at the Fillmore I thought was pretty wonderful. I'm guessing it was Duane - I wasn't there, but's that's what I've always heard. No big deal either way, though.

    - and apologies for thread drift; EC was one of my earliest guitar heroes, right there with George Harrison, Jimi Hendrix and Stephen Stills.
     
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    No ones likes or dislikes offend me.

    There was always something odd about that coda. The out of tune slide. The fact that it was written by Rita Coolidge but her abusive, schizophrenic boyfriend stole the credit, and it’s odd placement has bothered me.


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    Clapton is one of the all-time greats--and a huge source of inspiration for me when I began learning to play. There are plenty of guitarists with greater technical skills, but I'd rather listen to E.C. than just about all of them.
     
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    Clapton was so influential that I wound up sounding somewhat like him before I really knew what he sounded like. Like, oh that's where I got that from. Huh.
     
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    Well said sir.

    Also, nojazzhere, I agree too. With the Allman Bros I think Duane's playing is as good as it gets for playing what's just right for the songs, but the Layla stuff... Mmmm!
    My favourite slide bit off that album is Key to the highway. I know they were jamming and the engineer thought it sounded do good he'd just press record anyway... But it seems to take, presumably, Duane an age to catch up.
     
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    I know what you mean - I really like Duane Allman's playing, but his slidework on Layla is....just too much and I don't like the tone. But as always: a matter of taste.
     
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    So wrong - on many levels!!!
     
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    I was the same - even now I'll play a lick sometimes and think, hmmmm I know where that came from! :D
     
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    Just a great album. Have You Ever Loved a Woman on that live record is a education in how to play blues guitar.
     
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    I love Eric. I didn’t understand guitar till I heard him.


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    I saw them at the Berkeley show back in '70. Clapton played a sunburst strat and amps were Marshall; two stacks for EC and one for sixteen year old Neal Schon. Great show!
     
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