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Steely Dan

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by chet again, Jun 15, 2019.

  1. chulaivet1966

    chulaivet1966 Tele-Afflicted

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    Yep.....talk about smoooooth. :)
    But...it's not a difficult tune IIRC...just difficult to reproduce those thick harmonies by oneself.
    Guess I need to check my SD manual so I don't make a fool of myself here.

    Carry on....
     
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  2. bcorig

    bcorig Friend of Leo's Silver Supporter

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    Yes, yes! Chain Lightning! I was thinking the same thing this past Thursday. Wondering to myself “is there anyone out there appreciating what I hear?
     
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    Gotta do Katy Lied. Great song, makes me recall every major mistake I ever made in the past 50 years-and the fact I survived them.
     
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    Great band with some of the greatest musicians available. I always felt Steely Dan's subject matter was on the darker side of life, drugs, and other not so stellar subjects. Interesting. The music itself is fantastic. For me, I get a lot of imagery from Fagen's lyrics, few artists do that for me. In my Top Ten Albums is Donald Fagen's "The Nightfly". Though sadly Walter Becker was ill at the time, and ultimately passed away, filling in for him was Larry Carlton. I was more than thrilled to see them at the Citifield in NY, and see Mr. 335 step out with Steely Dan. He cranked away on Kid Charlemagne like droping the needle on the record. Awesome!
    Larry Carlton.jpg Larry Carlton and & Donald Fagan .jpg
     
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    Their obvious, hit songs are of course really, really great.

    But the "unsung" ( hah! ) songs are the ones that I tend to keep rediscovering - Pearl of the Quarter, Brooklyn Ows the Charmer ( Under Me ), King of the World, Kings, Daddy Don't Live in that New York City No More. I think someone mentioned richness and depth.

    They make great use of bottleneck and steel playing; Denny Diaz and Jeff Baxter - man!

    Great tone is everywhere, great amp sounds.

    Steely Dan loves their guitars, that's for sure, maybe more than interesting clever lyrics.
     
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  6. chulaivet1966

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    The tempo of that one works for me too.....hmmm.

    Your self deprecating sense of humor is well intact this Saturday evening. :)
    I'm pretty proficient at that too. (= I can relate amigo)

    Back to it....
     
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    All Steely Dan, all the time...
     
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    No static at all.
     
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    I really dig steely dan now, but it took me years to mature enough to actually hear and appreciate them for the talent and skill, also for the excellent sounding production on all their records
     
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  10. chulaivet1966

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    Chuckle....you have walked into the light weed hopper. :)
     
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    Up to Pretzel Logic, I think their work was a bit uneven. Both Katy Lied and Royal Scam have brilliant songs on them, but also some less inspired work. For me, Pretzel Logic is a perfect album. It's top five desert island good. One of my favourite cuts is the cover of Ellington's "East St. Louis Toodle Oo".

    Aja kills of course. :) After that I'm a bit more causal a listener.

    By the way, Can't Buy a Thrill is perhaps the best album title from a band named for a fictional 'marital aide'.

    Daniel
     
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    So nice to see that (in general), members here a full of love for this incredible music - Donald's 'Morph The Cat' and 'Sunken Condos' are going in my car today to help get me through work tomorrow!
     
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    Do you play “With A Gun” by any chance?
    I learned it about 30 years ago, and it was tough going. Very chordy with rhythm changes, but once you nail it, it’s very rewarding.
     
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    Inspired by Ritchie Blackmore's tip to learn sax solos, 'because they're single notes, and can be copied on guitar', I've set myself the challenge of the solo in 'Doctor Wu'. :eek::cry:
     
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    An amazing band. Love SD.
     
  16. chulaivet1966

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    Mornin' Stringbanger....

    No....I've never thought about doing that one. (as the song structure now starts playing in my mind)
    Ha....yes....they can get pretty "chordy" as you state.

    I think it's great you stuck with it and felt that "rewarding" feeling which I can relate to in this context.
    Personally speaking, I would reiterate....if one wants to become more accomplished with their musicianship one has to work on songs that force them out of their comfort zone.
    Once one has struggled through the (seemingly vertical) learning curve one's confidence is enhanced and they will be less intimidated by choosing other challenging songs.

    A good day to all....I need more coffee....
     
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    I graduated from high school in ‘80. Green Earrings, Rikki, Peg were tunes I covered on guitar in my HS jazz rock band. Like others at the time I felt they were too smooth and ironic. I appreciate them more now. I think they represent the pinnacle of studio production in the analog age. They were perfectionists that labored over every measure. I saw an interview with a studio guitar guy who said that having a solo on an SD song was a huge badge of honor. Lots of guys came in for an hour, tried their best to create a righteous solo, got paid, but their part was cut when a different studio cat laid down the perfect solo.

    My own approach to playing and recording is much looser and spontaneous, but I have to admit it’s because I don’t have the patience, perfectionist urge, nor the studio talent that would be required.
     
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    Multiple sources on the Net cite a Strat with a Gibson humbucker in the neck position into an SVT bass amp. Here's the whole story from Elliot Randall, the man behind the solo.

    https://elliott-randall.com/2012/06/guitarist-magazine-interview-june-2012/
     
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    I just put on Citizen Steely Dan and listen to it all, from the beginning in 1972 to 1980. It's an amazing journey, with not a bad tune in the whole shebang. I think some mistake subtlety for sterile, maybe.

    Steely Dan is sublime in all their forms and phases. I love it all. Yes, including Gaucho, amigo.
     
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    I'm a big fan of Becker and Fagen's work. They have had such amazing players and know how to get the results they want in the studio, which is no small task. This video shows the level of craft / artistry that went into making their records.

     
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