Steely Dan - I learned something today

Discussion in 'Music to Your Ears' started by waparker4, Feb 18, 2016.

  1. Tommy Biggs

    Tommy Biggs Friend of Leo's

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    my .02 - when it gets to the fade outs on songs in the older 'guitar based' records - turn it up and check it out - lotta great riffs and licks going on while the recording fade out!

    "My Old school" is a great one.
     
  2. waparker4

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    Well that's disappointing. Ha


    They definitely had ... unique ways of recording.



    Yeah I love that stuff. I like to do it in my original material when I can.
     
  3. KevinB

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    The part from about 3:30 in the right channel, with the kind of stuttering finger picking, sounds very Knopfleresque to me.
     
  4. Jethro

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    Yup....Huge Dan and Knopfler fan. Great album and great song....no doubt that Gary Katz was pushed by Fagan and Becker to add compression and that slightly over processed tone to Mark's takes....Still, Mark's playing is totally recognizable
     
  5. 4pickupguy

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    Ok, I have been a life time fan o' the Dan and had absolutely no Idea.... .. I saw them in July and they were more than stellar.. Very ironic as I heard Chrissy laying down the Drum/Bass/Keys parts to this song this morning.. I bet she knew it was Knoffler... I'll ask... I've only just started really getting into some of Knoffers music and there are a few of those "albums that become part of your DNA" type of albums in there... Is it just me or did this knowllege just make all the licks in that tune "tastier" when I listen now?
     
  6. bchaffin72

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    But do you know what they named themselves after??
     
  7. kp8

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    That record was, I believe almost entirely scrapped and redone. The first version of it, almost completely finished, ended up sounded too much like Aja so they redid the whole thing. The original was out and about floating around the net and was pretty interesting to hear.

    I always think of that as the Steve Kahn record. He's all over that one.
     
  8. McGlamRock

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    A steam powered "character" called the Steely Dan II from the William Burroughs novel "The Naked Lunch"
     
  9. bchaffin72

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    That's the ticket! :D
     
  10. MilwMark

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    This is one of those bands I feel guilty for not liking. Maybe they are virtuosos. I can never get far enough into a song to tell.

    Very bland. Very non-dynamic. It must have been intentional - maybe they compressed the heck out of everything (even though they did NOT fall victim to also riding the levels of everything to infinity and beyond). I have no doubt they achieved what they wanted, and it just doesn't "fall well on my ear".

    Like a less catchy Captain and Tennille for me. I realize I'm in the minority here for musician's/music-lovers. In this case no doubt the old like: "It's not [them]; it's me, is no doubt actually true."
     
  11. Skub

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    There was a time when being asked to guest on a Steely Dan record was a sign you'd arrived as a musician. They were the best and had the ear of the best.

    Mark knew that.
     
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    I love the band named after a strap on sex toy lol!

    Their music is awesome, I saw them in concert for the first time a few years ago here in Houston, Steely Dan put on an incredible show, so tight. Nobody makes music like Walter and Donald can, quite the duo.
     
  13. The_Doctor [EV]

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    I wouldn't say the earlier stuff would fit that description at all, though the albums from, say, Katie Lied onwards when they were basically a duo using session players is guilty of a lot of that. It works well enough for me, both ends of the spectrum.



    An ugly bunch with no stage presence but a stupendous amount of talent.
     
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    Late to the thread... but probably more known is the voice of Michael McDonald doing his thing on BGVs for that song.
     
  15. elihu

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    Yeah, I knew Knopfler played on that cut-I remember in a interview Mark described that experience as somewhat disappointing. Just speculating but Mark's guitar style is so distinctive that I think Walter and Donald buried him in the mix...they are all about their songs and maybe saw his solo as distracting from as opposed to pointing to their perceived vibe for that song. But they already set the whole session up and couldn't completely wipe such a high profile guests' contribution without some hard feelings.

    I drove my wife up to Winstar Casino last year to see them. I really enjoyed the show but couldn't help noticing they are all getting a bit long in the tooth-especially Becker. But Jon Herrington is still a monster.
     
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