Srv's Dumble

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  1. superjam144

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    So I've been researching the tone that was accomplished on this beautiful piece of art. Apparently Stevie used Jackson Browne's Dumble to record this in Jackson's studio.



    My question is: How could you achieve this glassy beautiful tone on the cheap? My blues junior is wonderful but it seems impossible to really get this level of tone. Are there pedals or affordable amps out there?
     
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    Multiple amps, it’s not cheep.
     
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    Super Reverb or a Twin Reverb. He used both over the years.

    My Super Reverb and even my Vibrolux Reverb can get close.
     
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    there's too much reverb on that track for my liking.
     
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    I use a Zendrive when playing on someone else's amp. I'm not sure how well this models a Dumble sound. But it puts me in the ballpark of my sound at home with an ODS.
     
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    I'm not generally a fan of pronounced reverb, but I rather like this. Since the track is fairly spare and uses silences, the reverb helps to sort of bind the sounds together.

    That said, I'm glad to know another person who focuses on this.
     
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    Any loud clean Fender amp should come close. I know the trend is towards smaller amps, but to get the job done, sometimes you just gotta have bigg iron. ;)
     
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    IIRC there's a song about big iron.
     
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    My "solution" for home playing, especially for a clean-ish sound, is to use an optical compressor that's gently compressing and that has some boost and built in EQ along with an EQ pedal boosting mids into a Fender tube amp. To get the sound "bigger", I use a 4x12 IR (EVM 12Ls) before going into the mixer for recording or speakers/headphones.

    Some interesting info/ideas in this show.

     
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    What a great tune to watch the sun come up
     
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    6L6, big output tranny, a good tube reverb, clean speakers

    ain't happening with a blues junior

    On the "cheap";
    a Deville 212 will get close. (the 212 sounds good).
    a TRRI will also be close
     
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    @superjam144 Consider that SRV loved and adored Jimi Hendrix. That glassy tone was achieved by JH by using a germanium fuzz, then turning the volume on the guitar down until it cleaned up. Welcome to glassy land.

    Pete Thorn has a great video on this. And he ain't using no fender, he's going into a marshall that's on the verge of break up (JH used Marshalls). I honestly don't think the amp matters that much when trying to get those clean glassy tones. It's all about that germanium fuzz.

    Watch the vid here, it will blow your mind to see and understand how a Ge fuzz, out of every other pedal, can be used for glassy clean tones.

     
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    reverb on the guitar is a little too much, particularly as the snare is quite wet.
    but that's just me - i'm very conscious of over-verbing.
     
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    That sound? It’s just mostly clean amp. Your BJR is readily capable of it.
     
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    IMO the dumble is, and ever was, only a small part of the equation. It boils down to the players skills and ability, touch, feel, etc. probably even moreso than whatever amp he used. Trying to chase his tone is a lot like chasing Jimi's tone, and people have been chasing that tone since Jimi ;)
     
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    Crank your tube amp, turn your guitar down.

    It helps fill out a lot of the dynamics and harmonics that go missing by playing a tube amp at too low of a volume. Overrides the thinness.

    Then, play kinda softly (for SRV anyways) and move the pick around as you pick. Pick up over the end of the fretboard, and up around the 12th fret for the softer, smoother sections. Pick back by the bridge to get that grindy, bitey tone.
     
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    The reverb is a major component of the shimmery, sparkling tone in that track.
     
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    I like that tune, but I don’t find it truly ‘glassy’ in all parts of the recording. A Fender BF/SF type of reverb amp used without anything else will yield a cleaner, glassier response than that, ime. I hear quite a bit of trash from various sources there in some parts. And…yes… the reverb is a bit heavy handed in some respects.


    Hendrix recorded quite a bit with amps other than Marshall’s…especially at Electric Ladyland. You can hear a Twin Reverb in some of those recordings. He played Dual Showman amps in some live situations. He always sounded like Jimi Hendrix no matter what amp he played through, imho.
     
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    I'm missing something. Probably that fuzz deal. Love the ideas thank you.

    Gonna try cranking the master.
     
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    The tone just sounds so alive. Bouncy even. Clean but a hint of sweet sweet dirt.

    I'll check out the vids later thanks again.
     
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