Squier Japan E series Tele

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  1. Craig Williams

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    Got the opportunity to buy a made in Japan E series tele. I believe it is a CTL30? But only gathered that from searching online. Serial number E635484. The price is right at about $400.

    A couple of things bother me, one is there is no "made in Japan" anywhere on the guitar but have see 6 or 7 online and appear to be the same. I believe it is a 70s reissue available in black or cream and maybe explain the logo. It may have originally been a top loader, the bridge has been changed and now a string through which is fine by me.

    What is the opinion of this model / era guitar? I know the E series strats are desirable. They weren't plywood or anything horrible?

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    I'm no expert, but it seems legitimate. Except for, as you noted, the bridge was replaced - which means somebody drilled the body for string through. I also see some listings claiming the body is basswood. I like basswood, it is light weight.
     
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    Looks nice!
     
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    Not as nice as your Tele precision :p
     
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    The CTL30 was string through with a vintage bridge. This looks like a Japanese Standard to me.

    E is not a series, just a serial number date indication (1984-87).
     
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    Let’s come at it from this angle,
    Do you like it?
    Are you able to give it a hands on assessment?
    Does it play/feel/sound like you want a guitar to?
    Are you in a financial position to get it?

    If all that is yes, go for it.
     
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    Actually is a No. I live remotely so have to make an assessment with whats available. I have checked it out pretty thoroughly and it is genuine. Whether its a good player or not will know when I get it. But scored it cheap enough to offload it if needed. Thanks for all the replies
     
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    ......and completely knackered it up. That hole drilling is a real hack job. Hope the rest of the guitar is OK.

    If I recall. the E series was around 1982 or so, and many of them are fetching a good price these days in good condition.
     
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    Thanks for your reply but every Squier CTL30 I have seen, probably about 10 online auctions, pics etc are all top loaders. I know its definitely a CTL30 because the guy photographed the neck and neck pocket. It is supposed to be a 70s style reissue. Funny though looks like the neck was originally stamped TL72 and its crossed out and re stamped with CTL30. I don't know what the K or Z means. The TL72 was the Fender version and I believe they were interchanging parts. So probably initially a Fender Japan neck, and used on a Squier. I know everyone says the serial numbers from this time weren't accurate but most I have seen the first letter of serial indicative of year and usually confirmed by the date penciled on the end of the neck.506 is of course the color code for black. I was more worried this model may have been plywood although since have learnt these were the Korean ones, however I did see one guy post he had a Japan Squier with plywood body. I had a suspicion the Silver series may have been plywood?

    Sounds like they were a bit all over the place back then in the Japan factory. Not long after (87?) Squire Japanese guitars were Fender Japan guitars and Squier moved to Korea.


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    Those would be JVs, the earliest Japanese Fenders, between them and the E serials in 84-7 came SQs.
     
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    I just sold an 85 stock standard MIJ tele. Great guitar overall but the roughest repaint I ever seen. Sold like a flash haha and for top dollar too. I live in Thailand and they are going through the "relic" phase. Probably just as well as they treat their instruments so badly. Relic my a$$, just totally neglected lol
     
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    Korean Squiers started about 1987, that's where the plywood bodies came from.
     
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    Guitar arrived today. Good old warhorse. Everything original I think apart from the string thru body and bridge set up. Totally out of whack but gave it a good set up and killer neck now.

    Bit of a hum from the front pick up so no doubt will have to sort the electronics. Can anyone direct me to a wiring diagram for E serial Japanese Squier?
     
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    If it's $400 in the clear (i.e. including tax and shipping), it might be an OK deal (but definitely not great, or even "fair" IMO). That would be an upper limit for that guitar in that condition with those hacks/mods. If you have to pay tax and shipping on top of $400, then don't take it. You also need a return window in case the neck is screwed or the frets are more worn than described. If it needs a fret job, it's a nearly worthless guitar on the market.
     
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    I'm in Thailand and prices are a bit higher than in the states, and with a lot less available. And without thinking quoted AUS$ lol. So about $280 your money.
     
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    I must say I am constantly astonished at the reputation of the Japanese Fenders. I must have had 30, maybe 40 or 50 over the years (I trade used guitars) and they are always ok, but I can't remember having one that made me think wow. They are built nicely for sure, and compared to the early / mid eighties stuff Fender USA was putting out maybe they were a lot better? They just seem to be soulless to me as do modern Fender USA guitars. The best Fenders I ever had were late 60's / early 70's Strats and Teles and the only thing I have found close to that vintage sound and feel was believe it or not the Squier Classic vibes or G&L Tributes (Never played a US G&L).

    I currently have 3 Fender Japan guitars including this Squier, an RE57 Strat I think it is and an Aerodyne Strat. The last 2 are minters. My G&L Tele Bluesboy thinline or G&L S500 (Both Tribbys) would blow any of them away in playability, output and tone. And certainly the chrome and hardware is tons better. Neck better feel, for me anyway and I love the jumbo stainless frets.

    I don't get all the hype about the Japanese guitars?
     
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    I do have an a ply wood body one which is e series and has the most beautiful neck, I was told that some of the Japanese necks ended up on Korean bodies when work was moved to Korea. I cannot remember who told me this or where it came from, but I believe it was a fender site.
     
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