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Spicing up guitar solos (outside the box)

Discussion in 'Tab, Tips, Theory and Technique' started by Ryan McCall, Oct 26, 2017.

  1. Ryan McCall

    Ryan McCall TDPRI Member

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    I got asked recently about playing outside the pentatonic box that we sometimes lock ourselves into.
    I made a quick video and thought I would share it with you guys. It covers adding in the major 6th to your pentatonic scale. You can also add in the 9th as well. These give your playing a Dorian mode sound. The guitar I'm using as a 1965 Telecaster! Check it out!
     
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    nojazzhere Doctor of Teleocity

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    Nice, Ryan. For several years, I've made an effort to play LESS modal, in the box, stuff, and more melodic, less predictable lines. This would include, like you're doing, throwing in 6ths, 2nds, and any other interval, without being too dissonant. But I like what you're doing here....keep it up!
     
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    Wider intervals open up things.

     
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    ya but chords change

    here's Laur Joamets playing with Sturgill Simpson on some simple changes

    listen to how he spices up his single-note solo by slipping a minor-four chord arpeggio over the tonic (D) and then moving forward again into D

    happens at 3:11 below



    music theory types call this "prolonging tonic harmony"

    spicy!
     
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  5. Ryan McCall

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    Yes it does! That's a great video.
     
  6. Ryan McCall

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    Laur Joamets is a great player with some tasty licks.
     
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    I hope this helps some guitar players. I don't know about that pentatonic box, are they still teaching that? That is like totally 70s. I am a bit surprised that guys need a video to get to this level. It seems to me that if you just play your favorite songs you will discover these mystical notes.
     
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    sockgtr Tele-Meister

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    Nice playing and a fine idea!

    I try not think in terms of scales and instead try to think in terms of chords. Then think about adding notes to the chord, especially 7's and 9's. I tend to think of the 6th as part of the base chord anyway :) Of course, there's all those other notes to use as passing tones!

    Also, juxtaposing one chord over another, ex: playing a V chord over a I chord will produce a major 9th chord. Or for something spicier, playing a II7 over a I will give you a 9, b5 and 6th.
     
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  9. Ryan McCall

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    I like to think it terms of chords as well. It opens up the fretboard more then being bound to a scale.
     
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    Frank'n'censed Doctor of Teleocity

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    Spice...Quality hot sauce works every time
     
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  11. Ryan McCall

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    I agree! I try not to teach "boxs". I think it can really limit players. Instead I get my students to experiment and see what they can discover without being tied to a certain pattern. It may sound like a bunch of random notes at first, but soon they figure out what works. It's kind of like a child learning a language. It starts as gibberish but turns into something understandable.
     
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    This one video is good, too:

    Simplify Your Thinking When Soloing
     
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