Songs with contradictory lyrics

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  1. TheGoodTexan

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    I heard that old Phil Collins song the other day, "Billy Don't Lose My Number".

    The chorus is this:

    Billy, Billy don't you lose my number
    Cause you're not anywhere that I can't find you


    And it occurred to me, if Billy can't go anywhere that Phil can't find him, why was it so important to Phil for Billy not to lose his number?

    I mean, say that young Bill goes to the public swimming pool and has to leave his belongings in a locker, but then the local thugs break into Billy's locker and take his towel, sneakers, tshirt, and his baseball trading cards - one of which had Phil's number written on it. According to Phil's lyrics, this is really not a problem for him, as he can find Billy anywhere.

    So why was this so important that Phil needed to remind Billy in song form?

    Maybe the chorus should have been:

    Billy, Billy you won't need my number
    Cause where ever you go, I will stalk you
     
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    I thought it was Ricky who shouldn't lose the number?....;)

    sounds like he means... I can never contact you, you're moving around too much.. so keep my number with you and give me a ring when you're near a phone...

    written in the pre mobile phone era perhaps... when phones were attached to places not people...
     
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    i think if i found myself awake at 2 a.m. contemplating Phil Collins lyrics i would feel the need to self medicate! passing a virtual sumpin sumpin your way!
     
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    "But if this ever changing world in which we live in "...

    this always bugs me... too many ins.... i did think it was an "in" instead of an "if"... which makes it sound over "inned" to me...
     
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    I always figured "you're not anywhere that I can't find you" meant "no matter where you go, if you call me, I'll come find you." So, like, don't lose my number, because all you have to do is call.

    Still kind of stalkerish, but not necessarily a contradiction.

    As for the "Live and Let Die" line, I like to pretend it's "in which we're livin'," since that gets rid of the redundancy. :D
     
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    I mean, he could have done a soft pause after worldddd..

    and then said.. which we live in... without that first in...

    yours works well though...;)
     
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    Yeah I can see contemplating Dylan or Van Morrison but Phil Collins??? His is not exactly stuff that will live on into posterity.
     
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    Thank the Lord !
     
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    You must have watched Macca's portion of the Sandy Relief Concert the other night (12/12/12)

    I'm being quite honest when I say that, until I saw/heard him sing Live and Let Die" during his set, I had always (since I first heard it) had a problem with the "in which we live in" line.

    It never dawned on me that he was singing anything else until I heard this:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bnYn3-48UEo

    at :06



    I've checked many lyrics sites and all that I've looked at say the line in "in this world in which we live in" but I know what I heard the other night.
     
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    Phil Collen was alright but Pete Willis was cooler.
     
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    Lol, the line is "you're not anywhere that I can find you", Phil can't find him, so he needs Billy's number.
     
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    Perhaps Billy doesn't want Phil to find him.

    He is trying to escape Phil's dulcet tones

    Pound to a dollar, Billy is like the rest of us... Still runnin :eek::eek:
     
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    not quite lyrics .....but who hasn't pondered the title of this LP?..:confused::lol:

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    Tom Verlaine in the song Marquee Moon:

    "Look here junior, don't you be so happy
    And for heaven's sake, don't you be so sad".

    OK that was deliberate of course.
     
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    We played a gig some weeks ago, doing the über-cheesy kraut rock classic 'Rock you like a hurricane'. I hear our singer going 'It's early morning, the sun goes down'......

    Now, that's probably him mixing up the lyrics. Or it could have been an ironic look on a big hangover or something.

    I can't really bear listening to the lyrics of that song anyway. Horrible, cringe-worthy stuff. That's probably why I never caught that one before. Hope nobody else is listening either.
     
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    I've never heard it as anything else but then it is scouse English = "in which we are living" (in which we're livin'). Scouse (Liverpool, Merseyside) is a fairly heavy accent. I think you have to be English to hear English lyrics clearly, same as I have problems with some American lyrics.
     
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    Nope.

    By the way, I just stumbled across a Wiki entry for this song. And here's a quote:

    The song is addressed to someone called "Billy" whom the singer is hoping to find (and hopes Billy still has his number). Collins has said that he actually wrote most of the song during the recordings for his very first album, Face Value. Collins also states that the lyrics were improvised, and that he himself does not fully understand what they mean. Stephen Holden of the New York Times also agreed that the lyrics were very "vague, sketching the outlines of a melodrama but withholding the full story".
     
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