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Sometimes it's small changes that make a nice difference...

Discussion in 'Other Guitars, other instruments' started by DHart, Nov 13, 2020.

  1. DHart

    DHart Poster Extraordinaire Gold Supporter

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    I've always understood that my Gretsch G6119 Player Edition is a really fine quality instrument. The Japanese build quality is superb - quite noticeably better than Gibson, in my view.

    But for some reason, I did not often pick it up and play it. It seemed like the top of guitar was bogged down a bit with too much stuff, that just cluttered things up, to my way of thinking.

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    I'm not a big tremolo user, so I replaced the Bigsby with a standard tailpiece. (If the guitar had been available without a Bigsby, I would have bought it that way.). That change uncluttered the top of the guitar considerably, which I liked. :)

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    I still didn't tend to pick up the guitar and play it very much. o_O

    Taking note that all of my other hollow-body and semi-hollow body guitars have the pick guards removed, I wondered if that small change might make a difference, for me, with this Gretsch.

    So, today I removed the pick guard from the Gretsch. I felt was a bit chunky, a little unsightly, and not needed for how I play. The guitar became even more simplified - and I like simplified.

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    Simple, clean and uncluttered. Now, pretty much just my style!

    I think this small change has made a difference. At least I played the guitar quite a bit today, and really enjoyed it! I'm thinking I may be playing this Gretsch a good bit more in days ahead. Hope so, anyway. It's quite a fine instrument that has been sitting idle far too much.
     
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  2. Sparky2

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    I like it a lot now.

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    I love the simplified look, those Gretsch pickguards always seem like some random final thing they put on just cause, but the guitar just looks that much more incredible without it.
     
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    The way this sits now, it's kind of like the Gibson hollow-body that I always wanted, but never found. Hollow body, 2.75" deep, very high quality. I guess it took buying a Pro-Line Gretsch and stripping it down to get there. :lol: The Japanese craftsmanship is stunningly clean and precise - inside and out (I toured the insides with a camera snake.)

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    Still too fancy, but beautiful nonetheless! Now that color on a tele with a silver pickguard? Oh yeah baby!
     
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  6. El Tele Lobo

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    I would have made very similar changes myself. Nice work.
     
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  7. DHart

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    I've been thinking about swapping the pickup trim rings with black versions. ;) Those pearly trim rings are just a tad "blingy" to my simple taste.
     
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    I think it's the color. It's a deep scarlet red with hues of purple. Maybe THE most beautiful color.
     
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    I'm with you on the color - it's my favorite. I have a Strat in this color, too. How about this color (close enough) on a Tele with a black guard?

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    Haha, Yes there it is!!! :)
     
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    I just took a Bigsby off of a friends guitar - he claimed it would never stay in tune and he hardly ever used it. Told me that it is now his favorite guitar. (However I will also admit to installing them for people who truly seem to need or want them).

    Yours looks much better without the p/g also.
     
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    Amazing how much different it looks minus bigsby and pickguard. Looks fantastic. Not that it looked bad before (because it didn't lol). I don't hate the pickup rings, I'd probably leave them, but black would look great as well.

    I can tell you right now... I'd be playing the crap out of that thing both before and after. I love the Gretsch neck profiles. A set of 11's on there and I'd be flying on that bad boy. Nice guitar... and nice job
     
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    I do understand the appeal of the Bigsby to get that cool sounding tremolo. But just prefer the overall simplicity without it, and the tuning stability is rock solid now.
     
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    ^^^ Yeah, when I have put them on I've always used roller bridges and not had any problems. I was curious about the floating bridge on yours - that seems like a bad idea with a trem.
     
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    Nice work OP! I have wanted to get a Gretsch, but the non-trem versions don't seem to be too common. You found a solution that looks great.
     
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    One place where the build quality really shows is the binding on the f-holes. That's not easy work to do flawlessly.

    On this guitar, the f-holes look like they were born with the flawlessly done f-hole binding. Pretty amazing work.
     
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    Nah,it works just fine if you know how to set it up right and "pin" the bridge (using violin raisin works wonders and you don't even need double sided tape or pins/screws)

    A Gretsch without a Bigsby doesn't look like a Gretsch to me but maybe I am a bit biased :)

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    Hi Nick. Yes, you are right. Without the Bigsby, it definitely looks more like a Gibson. I'm quite fine with that. And, it's a better quality guitar than most Gibsons these days. I'm happy about that, as well. :)
     
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    I like your “mods.” Especially when playing live, I don’t like all that stuff getting in the way of simply reaching for the volume knobs, which I tend to use a fair amount. I don’t like the style of pickguard that comes off the guitar. On my Les Pauls I always remove those PGs, even though I think they look kinda cool. But you have a master volume on that Gretsch, I think? Never got used to where that bugger sits.
     
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    I agree with swapping the Pickup rings. They look OK with the pickgaurd on but with it off, I'd definitely change to black.
     
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