Soldering FYI

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  1. DuckDodgers

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    I learned with a soldering gun, and I hate them ;-) S

    A good iron is easier to control and can produce as much or more heat. I use an inexpensive temperature controlled iron from Circuit Specialists. It responds by producing more heat if the temperature drops. If that won’t do it, I use a torch ;-)

    https://www.circuitspecialists.com/soldering-stations
     
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    I been reading all the replies Honestly I would never buy that soldering gun (Grizzly T1233) to me it looks just like what it is a $10 soldering gun. I'd buy a nice Weller soldering gun something that will last 20 years or more if you don't knock it off your workbench :cry:.
     
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    The Weller 8200 is around $50 so $10 seems pretty good for maybe somebody on a tight budget.
    I’m still fond of the antique Wellers with what appears to be genuine bakelite housings.
    And yeah, when they die it’s from falling off the bench.
    The bottom one is newer but I’ve had it maybe 15 years and cracked the case a few months ago so bought an even older one to replace it.
    I guess I’ve had 6-10 of them over the years and got them all used.

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    Can’t argue with them results!

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    OK I didn’t do that it was in a used partscaster
     
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    yeah, I've seen that a time or two... :eek: and I just replaced the housing on a few of mine,, and the replacement light bulbs and new tips with new retainers just arrived today.... what's old is new again...

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    I actually burned a weller 8200 N it had a duty cycle , I felt it was my duty to ignore , and I abruptly did , that was before I got a licenece to use a soldering iron ( I was about 14 at the time), I have learned one good fast hot hit and the job is neat and clean, prep is the key , now i have a soldering station , 2 irons a heat gun ( for shrink tube and reballing ) and a 60 watt iron for chassis grounds and I am happy

    Ron thanks for taking the time for your post , I for one appreciate when some one passes on tips and techniques , we all win!
     
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    Hmmm, were you making stained glass windows?
    .....

    But a heat gun for shrink tubing?
    What product is that?
    Flame kinda sucks and the last time I was fixing a break in a HB 4 wire so it was tough to shrink the wrap without melting the little wires.
    I've only seen big heat guns for paint removal or pipe thawing.
     
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    Checking the price of a new Weller for comparison tonight, I spotted the new housings Weller sells for the first time, pretty cool that those are available.
    Expensive, but still cheaper than a new gun.
     
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    Holy crap, that's unbelievable.
    Soldering always came naturally to me, but that seems so bad it is hard to believe someone actually did that.
     
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    Soldering guns all the way! I've been using my dad's old Weller for over 10 years with zero issues.

    A gaussmeter will help identify whether a gun is demagnetizing a pickup or not. I've tested this many times and never once has a soldering gun demagnetized pickups when used to solder in a control cavity.

    However, I did need to re magnetize a Tele pup I wound after reflowing the ground wire on the back plate with a soldering gun. That dropped the Gauss down quite a bit, but that was soldering on the pickup itself.

    For control section wiring, the gun is all I use. My friend's a veteran tech who's almost exclusively used a gun for over 50 years with nothing but excellent results. So over 60 combined years between us, not too shabby.

    To each his own. We all develop our preferences as techs and if your results are top notch, doesn't matter much how you got there.

    I use an iron mostly for pickup making and PCB/effects pedal work.
     
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    This has been an educational thread.
    I have a couple of irons, and a gun..
    Never use the gun. Ever.
    Might have to give it another whirl now.
     
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    see my solder station in the back ground it has a thermally controlled heat gun 125 C for shrink tube, 400+ C for reballing chips ,it also has 2 Irons attached ( Im only using one right now Mine is a BAKU 603-D
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    its smaller brother

    https://www.ebay.ca/itm/BAKU-BK-601...h=item282feacf7d:g:rbEAAOSwB-1Y3XSj:rk:1:pf:0
     
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    I still use my Weller gun for soldering once in a while (have a Weller station) But one thing I do like the gun for is cutting speaker cloth, takes care of all those dangling string problems. And the pencil soldering tool great for chasing holes in baffle . I finally found a use for those odd tips that come with the Weller soldering gun kits.
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    Ron,
    this is the best@#$%^ description of how to solder, and why you need a HOT!!! iron to do so I have ever read. You nailed it. Remind me to send you/ buy you a shot of Macallan (the good stuff) next time I see you.
     
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    Oh Man... what a blessing... I'm down to my last half bottle of the good stuff .. :p

    r
     
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