So... not much talk about the PRS NF53... (tele)

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#1 and #2 reasons PRS is struggling with.
Wasn't the SE Silver Sky the best selling electric guitar for the last two years? When a "Strat copy" is outselling real Strats I would say the Fender is struggling (relatively, not in absolute terms) compared to PRS. However, I have not really seen anyone gigging then, so I'm curious where they wind up. Then again, in the two months that I've had mine I've had more questions about it at gigs then any other guitar I've ever owned, so the awareness is there. No one ever asked about my Bluesboy, SG, or Gretsch hollowbody, but I have gotten questions from other guitar players about the Silver Sky.
 

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A lot of interesting features.

Given that we now have a metric bazillion different Telecaster models, I don’t thinks it’s a stretch to say the PRS NF53 or the Myles sig model sounds like a Telecaster.

From the videos I watched, there’s plenty of tele resemblance, without the single coil hum.

Like a lot of PRS stuff, the esthetic is not exactly my flavor - I think their design takes on a rather clunky Buick feel, but some folks like that vague blobby flustercluck. Whatever, I don’t see design when I’m playing and like every PRS I’ve played or had, it’s most likely a perfectly good guitar.

Here’s a vid comparing the two models. Hey, how would you like to do a vid playing with the boss?

 

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one of the demos demonstrated how long the thing sustains... crazy.
ya know, if you watch enough of Paul on the videos, he has many talking points he repeats a lot. Same stories. That's quite ok though. One of them is the crazy long sustain...like 45 seconds. One video kinda showed it too. So... I put my PRS on a table, resting on the strap pin and plucked a note. This was just an SE model too. So....I could hear sound, with my ear on the guitar for about 40 seconds..and could feel it too.
So...I grabbed a Classic Vibe Tele... and wadda ya know...it rang for about 30+ seconds. An Epi SG..about the same and my 88 Amer Strat did the 40 seconds. So of those quick choices, yeah it seemed the "better" guitars had more sustain. But was it that much more, that makes a big difference?

That seems to be very important to Paul and he defines more sustain as better quality. I guess it is... I know rock guitar players like sustain, but an OD pedal can do that, if not a sustaniac pickup. Do the highest end violins have more sustain?...Is it needed with a bow? IDK... but I thought the above was interesting
 

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Wasn't the SE Silver Sky the best selling electric guitar for the last two years? When a "Strat copy" is outselling real Strats I would say the Fender is struggling (relatively, not in absolute terms) compared to PRS. However, I have not really seen anyone gigging then, so I'm curious where they wind up. Then again, in the two months that I've had mine I've had more questions about it at gigs then any other guitar I've ever owned, so the awareness is there. No one ever asked about my Bluesboy, SG, or Gretsch hollowbody, but I have gotten questions from other guitar players about the Silver Sky.

There is a bit of "cherry-picking" the statistics going on there - you're talking about 2 Silver Sky models vs. 70-something Strat models (not counting Squier and Custom Shop models). So yes the Silver Sky is the best selling single model for the past 2 years, but I'm sure if you aggregate the sales of all the Fender-branded production-line Strats it will far outsell the aggregation of the 2 Silver Sky models.
 

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I'm a little put off by the oddball pickups and the 2 saddle bridge. It would be great if the SE model came with an ashtray and a standard tele route but that's probably too much to hope for. No doubt it sounds OK but I'm used to being able change things up to suit my taste. IIRC, the Silver Sky pickups were also (needlessly?) sized a little different from a standard strat pickup, turning a simple swap into a major project. Either might be a fun guitar to add to my stable (if I had one) but no way would they replace my actual tele or strat.
 

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but no way would they replace my actual tele or strat.

Yeah, I'm not looking to replace anything. I'm looking for a #2, more of a fat tele- that's noiseless. Toyed with the idea of getting a Fender, swapping out the pickups, (and have had a Cabronita for years but never really married to it, even with pickup swaps), but... those body contours look awful invitin' to me.... I was considering a Kotzen, but the necks are reportedly baseball bats- the bat end LOL. I've got a PRS DGT, and I can fully appreciate perfect fit/finish/setup out-of-the-box, something Fender has never been able to do in my experiences... I always have to mess with the damn thing, and replace stuff, to get it right. Not so with PRS.

I dug the Brad Paisley Esquire I had, but had to replace the saddles to get it to intonate, and the neck was sticky, and it wasn't noiseless (altho that bridge pickup certainly rocks).
 
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Yeah, I'm not looking to replace anything. I'm looking for a #2, more of a fat tele- that's noiseless. Toyed with the idea of getting a Fender, swapping out the pickups, (and have had a Cabronita for years but never really married to it, even with pickup swaps), but... those body contours look awful inviting' to me.... I was considering a Kotzen, but the necks are reportedly baseball bats- the bat end LOL. I've got a PRS DGT, and I can fully appreciate perfect fit/finish/setup out-of-the-box, something Fender has never been able to do in my experiences... I always have to mess with the damn thing, and replace stuff, to get it right. Not so with PRS.

I dug the Brad Paisley Esquire I had, but had to replace the saddles to get it to intonate, and the neck was sticky, and it wasn't noiseless (altho that bridge pickup certainly rocks).
I like your attitude. It’s become mine as well. A few years ago I started buying really great stuff, and not messing with it. I would rather play something than work on it. I’m totally over modding and customization. I’m doubly over ANY guitar that needs work out of the box. A setup? Sure. No problem. But a setup is mechanical adjustments to set my preferred action. It is not surgery.

Needs a fret level? I don’t want it. Needs nut work? I don’t want it. Needs pickups? I don’t want it. I am more than willing to buy far fewer guitars than I used to, and spend far more money on them if it means it comes out of the box “done”, and all I have to do is adjust it to my taste and play it. It’s completely worth it. After nearly 37 years of buying, selling, trading, and being a mad scientist at the workbench, I am done. It sucks. It’s no fun. Just give me a great guitar that does what it’s supposed to and let me play it. If that costs $3k? Then that’s what it costs. I don’t have that kind of money to spend, but I definitely will for the right piece.

My Vintage Select Gretsch? Perfect and worth the money.

My Silver Sky? Perfect and worth the money.

My Cole Clark acoustic? Perfect and worth the money.

Buy what you want and play the hell out of it. If it’s worth it to you like it is to me to have a guitar you don’t have to do anything to but play it, then go for it.
 

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Notice the Gibson-style nut?

No, and I don't even know what that means, LOL. I know it's bone. I don't care what it is as long as it intonates, and doesn't bind.

My EBMM Luke III has an Earvana compensated nut, and that thing intonates PERFECTLY. Love it.
 

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I just feel PRS is too concerned with looks for me to get excited about them
 

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I like your attitude. It’s become mine as well. A few years ago I started buying really great stuff, and not messing with it. I would rather play something than work on it. I’m totally over modding and customization. I’m doubly over ANY guitar that needs work out of the box. A setup? Sure. No problem. But a setup is mechanical adjustments to set my preferred action. It is not surgery.

Needs a fret level? I don’t want it. Needs nut work? I don’t want it. Needs pickups? I don’t want it. I am more than willing to buy far fewer guitars than I used to, and spend far more money on them if it means it comes out of the box “done”, and all I have to do is adjust it to my taste and play it. It’s completely worth it. After nearly 37 years of buying, selling, trading, and being a mad scientist at the workbench, I am done. It sucks. It’s no fun. Just give me a great guitar that does what it’s supposed to and let me play it. If that costs $3k? Then that’s what it costs. I don’t have that kind of money to spend, but I definitely will for the right piece.

My Vintage Select Gretsch? Perfect and worth the money.

My Silver Sky? Perfect and worth the money.

My Cole Clark acoustic? Perfect and worth the money.

Buy what you want and play the hell out of it. If it’s worth it to you like it is to me to have a guitar you don’t have to do anything to but play it, then go for it.
That was my position for the first forty years or so. I bought expensive guitars and played the heck out of them. Then I built a partscaster and had a pro set up by Mellicaster. Then it was full speed ahead as I realized that very few guitars had level frets and good setups. Constantly tinkering. Bought a bunch of cheap guitars and made good ones out of them.

Fast forward to today, I’m 72 years old, and I started playing 60 years ago. I’m retired on a limited income and I don’t gig anymore. I don’t need a project guitar, I just like to play. And the guitars I have are better than anything I could buy.
 

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I don't like it, but I don't think its "blasphemy" or anything silly like that. The whole PRS aesthetic is not my cup of tea--the "wood library," the overstated figure, the birds, the pointy headstock. Imho it's a tele shaped guitar and maybe a great guitar for you so play and enjoy
 

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When looking at "top selling lists" there is a time at the beginning of a new product where all the dealers need to order one in every color to fill their racks. Fill the pipeline. Dealers are certainly their 'real' customer but consumer purchases are not as well tracked by the factory since retailers keep that data.

Guitar buyers are trend followers and will buy what is raved about for this six seconds. Where are the fretless, the seven eight nine string models, oh so popular just a few years back?

Years ago I worked for a guy who retired from Kraft Foods at a time they would help supermarkets optimize product layouts (like why milk is always in the far corner) but with the advent of product bar codes, the retailers had control of up to the second sales. Then they told the cheese guys what to ship them.

The PRS-T is better than the -S because there is a non signature version that in the long run will do better.

The PRS-T would benefit from having single coil options with a 4-way switch and they could reduce costs with only face milling and a pickguard extension to hold the controls). That is likely version two or for SE models.

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