Well one of the reasons I ended up selling my Fender Red Knob Deluxe 85 and replacing that one with a Hot Rod Deluxe by that same brand... Was the fact that the Red Knob was just too loud, even when opened at a half, it simply drowned out everybody else in the rehearsal room. The Hot Rod will get its baptism of fire next Thursday when the band will re-start rehearsing but already I found that even at home, it can do a comfortable volume. Now I read time and time again that people hate the overdrive channel of the Hot Rod Deluxe and so I went at it with the drive pedals on my pedal board. THIS is "Miss Piggy", my Washburn Mutt guitar and my main instrument with my band, it's nothing special, late eighties plywood monster. But today when trying out the Piggy through my Fender, I on a whim turned on the more drive channel and all of a sudden, there was THE sound, it sounded so much fuller than through the drive pedals. I'm not superstitious but I do see it as a sign, that I got the sound I wanted pretty much by accident just as we're getting ready to get this show back on the road.