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Small puncture in speaker cone - what to do?

Discussion in 'Amp Central Station' started by Piotr, Mar 29, 2017.

  1. Piotr

    Piotr Tele-Afflicted Silver Supporter

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    I've just bought a secondhand Celestion G12M-65 Creamback. It turned out it has a small puncture in the cone, near the edge of the doped area. The seller missed it and offered me a full refund.

    However, I'm thinking of rather getting a partial refund and keeping the speaker. How much of a problem is this hole? Is it easy to repair? What are the consequences?

     
  2. trev333

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    I just used a strip of cloth and wood glue... then painted it with some black nail polish,,

    after I put the vacuum cleaner head through this one... oooops...:rolleyes::lol:... must get a grille one day...

    that was a few years ago and it's still holding up OK...

    a small hole like yours should be a breeze to fix in a similar fashion.....;)

    speaker repair inside.jpg speaker repair.jpg
     
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    Pretty minimal tear/hole. Plenty of threads here on that subject. Just do a search.
     
  5. JBFatFingers

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    Make it bigger and play it like Dave Davies.
     
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  6. Wally

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    I use the backing cloth that tailors and seamstresses use. Wood glue will work as will speaker repair glue. The cloth is gauze-like, and the glue works through the cloth.
     
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  8. jondanger

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    I use a piece of paper towel and some white glue or titebond. Just did one the other day - old Rola organ speaker that I'm trying out with a 6V6 Plexi clone.

    1) Get a 2 ply paper towel

    2) Tear off a piece that gives you about 1/4" of clearance on either side of the hole/tear

    3) Separate the plys so that you have two identically sized pieces

    4) Feather out the edges of your paper towel patch. This lets the glue wick out all the way to the edge

    5) Put a dab of glue on the paper towel and lay it over the hole/tear

    6) Spread the glue out over the area of the paper towel so that the whole thing is saturated through to the cone

    7) Repeat on the back side of the speaker

    8) Let it dry for a few hours

    9) Mount in the cab of your choice and play Black Dog

    I feel like separating the plys of a paper towel and doing it on both sides is the best balance of flexibility and strength, others may have different opinions. I've fixed a bunch of speakers like this and haven't had one fail yet.
     
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    Black liquid electrical tape and a small piece of paper towel.
     
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    Best paper I've found for repairs is Zeiss Lens Wipes.
     
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    The speaker is useless now. Send it to me and i will dispose of it properly for you;)
     
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    His amp also needs extended inspection if it's a '63 Fender anything. I will help with that chore....
     
  14. uriah1

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    Small hole. I have lived with speakers that have bigger holes than that.
    Don't need no stinking repair..
     
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    I've tried repairing the holes, I guess I didn't do it right, speaker would sound weird/distort once past a certain volume.
     
  16. slider313

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    It looks like you can just push the cone material back in place and use a little liquid electrical tape on both sides; front and back.
     
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    I also favor paper towels, but I like to use 3M Super 77 spray adhesive. It remains flexible forever. Touch it up with shoe dye, marker, or India ink (especially Noodler's ink, which permanently bonds to cellulose-based fibers).
     
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    I had the same issue. Even for a very small hole near the frame which I repaired with white glue and paper towel. There was always some note on the guitar that caused the speaker to create a weird buzz/resonance. I threw the speaker in the bin.
     
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  19. Axis29

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    I did the paper towel and wood glue trick that @jondanger described last year on an Eminence 1228. I got the speaker at an incredible price because it was damaged. It's been holding strong and performing perfectly ever since. The speaker gets gigged regularly in my 5e3. I have never had an issue with tone or any weird notes... Unless maybe it made the speaker sound better? LOL
     
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    Cut a piece of lightweight linen to size, dip it in rubber cement, slap it on there. Lasted 25 years so far on one of my speakers.
     
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