Slight Buyer's Remorse - DRRI

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  1. cleanjunkie

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    I've been in the market for my first tube amp for the past couple weeks. Searching for that classic fender clean tone--one that's spanky and bright, yet also able to warm up nicely. Primary usage right now is in my bedroom, but I'm planning to be moving to my own house here shortly where I'll be making one of the rooms a rehearsal area/studio. I want the ability to have enough clean headroom to gig with the amp eventually, but that's a little ways out.

    Last week I picked up a Blues Deluxe from GC, really liked the tone it put out but quickly realized it was WAY too much wattage/power for what I need. Returned it and upgraded to the '65 DRRI yesterday which I know is still too much volume for bedroom usage, but since the BF Princeton and DRRI were the same price I decided on the Deluxe since I'd eventually strive for it.

    I guess I'm looking for a bit of reassurance that I made a good choice. Am I missing out on a 'sweet spot' with the DRRI at in-home volume that I'd otherwise get with the Princeton? I'm happy with using my Fulltone OCD for crunch at reasonable volumes.

    GC has the 45-day return policy, so I'm not locked into the DRRI. I'm thrilled about it, but I'm not sure if this feeling that the '65 BF Princeton was the better choice is valid or if I'd be feeling the same way had I gone the other direction.

    edit: I play my strat majority of the time, but I also have a LP copy with beautiful Seymour Duncans when I want some humbucker in my life.
     
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  2. StoogeSurfer

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    If you're absolutely sure you won't be playing anywhere but in your home, a PR could be a better choice. But the DRRI has the guts that the Princeton won't if you are going to play live with a drummer. What you may be losing in a pure 'sweet spot' you are making up in versatility with the DR. And you can always find effects that can emulate that sweet spot at a lower bedroom volume. My two cents.
     
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    I like the Timmy for said spot.

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    If what you mean by sweet spot is clean at the edge of break up DR's do that quite nicely at relatively low volume levels. On the other hand much like my Twin without pedals they are a single voiced amp and that's what you get. My two cents is that for both home and venue use consider a Katana. Almost infinite tonal versatility at any volume, they actually do sound exactly like a tube amp, works for gigs as well and you'll save yourself a ton of money.
     
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    backporchmusic Friend of Leo's

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    They are both BF in voice, but the voices are different, so it's not just that one is louder.

    If you're just a home player, the Princeton is one of the best amps you can have for that purpose. You can get into the more musical parts of its tone at more comfortable volumes.
     
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    I dunno, I have a DRRI, a 75 twin and a 74 Vibrolux Reverb. I kinda like playing through the twin, even at low-levels, but the DRRI puts out some great sounds at most any level.
     
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    you got a classic amp, which will give you all the classic fender tones for a long time, yes it's pretty loud for home use, get a good attenuator for that use, and when you're going to gig you just leave it home :)

    i'd stick with the DRRI

    Easy Peasy.


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  8. TheMindful

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    Never personally loved the breakup on my Deluxe Reverb RI. Weber speaker replacement, my sweet spot is around 4.3, where the tubes are pushing and it is full sounding but clean and reasonably loud for most live situations. I do agree it is very versatile and takes most pedals well. If you want early breakup at lower volumes I'd say get a Princeton.
     
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    I bought a few newer Fender amps over the years and realized amps with printed circuit boards are missing something. So I ended getting used vintage Fender amps, 79 Vibrolux Reverb, 68 Bandmaster both are hand-wired. I don't play out much anymore but love the sound of the amps. They provide that clean sparkle, at least to my ears. I know, I'm weird.
     
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    The power difference between the princeton reverb and the deluxe reverb isn't huge to be honest.

    The DRRI has a 12" speaker, as opposed the the 10" in the PRRI - And that's a big difference. I much prefer 12". Much fuller sound.

    Each to their own though.
     
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    Here's the best explanation of difference between a Princeton and a Deluxe Reverb:

    In the Princeton Reverb -
    1. Tremelo is tube driven, varying the bias rather than a diode/optoisolator switching type. Makes it smoother, richer sounding.
    2. Preamp/Phase inverter is not Blackface style at all, it is pretty much the same as a Brown Fender. Not as bright, less mid cut. Again it is a richer tone than a Deluxe Reverb. One of the best designs anybody ever did.

    IMHO, there's not that much real world difference between the wattage. But if you're looking for that classic Fender sparkle/scooped mids keep the Deluxe. If the tone description in 2 above sounds better, the Princeton would suit you.

    Personally, my preference is for the Deluxe.

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    Hell yeah, that’s the most helpful answer I could’ve asked for. Thanks for your input man.

    Being in the room with just me and the Deluxe (rather than noisy GC next to a 15 y/o shredding death metal) I really love the tone this thing puts out. Realizing for myself why it gets so much love.

    Going to look into the Timmy OD pedal recommended here, and see what it’ll run me to maybe get an attenuator.


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    Thanks! Any recommendations on an attenuator that won’t cost me an arm and a leg?

    Also, would you say an attenuator shortens the lifespan of the tubes by much?


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    I love the DRRI. I don't think you could have made a better choice. I have been through a lot of amps, but the DRRI is without a doubt my favorite.
     
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    Tough spot my man.
    You could get a special run Princeton with a 12".
    If you anticipate playing out, there will more likely than not be a PA. Put a microphone in front of it if you can't carry the venue.

    I am not a fan of big amps idling at "1" and too loud at "1.5".
    Not that a DRRI is huge, but you know where I'm coming from.

    And FWIW, I've never owned a Deluxe reverb but I've always wanted one!
     
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    To me, this response nails it....much fuller, deeper, sound with the DRRI. I like to also say that, to me, the PRRI is much more focused, because of the 10" speaker. FWIW, I've got both, play 99% at home, never thought the DRRI was too loud. Flip a coin, you don't have a "wrong" choice.:D
     
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    If you're looking to jam with friends, and eventually play out, I think the DRRI is a good choice. Not being able to hit the sweet spot while practicing at home isn't all that big of a deal.

    That's not to say that you couldn't pull all that off with the PRRI, but you have a bit of extra headroom with the Deluxe. Not hitting a sweet spot at home is fine, but running out of headroom at a gig sucks!
     
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    I say you can't go wrong with either one. I prefer a Princeton over a Deluxe but that's what I like. A Tweed Champ type amp is where it's at for me.
     
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    Deluxe reverb = brighter (bright cap), bigger cabinet (more "full" sound), and a little louder

    Princeton = Less bright, smaller cab (a little more "boxy" perhaps, but a good sound nonetheless), and not quite as loud at the same settings.

    To me, if you aren't playing with a band, it depends on if you like the brightness and fuller sound of the DR, or would you prefer what the PR has to offer.
     
  20. sonicsmitty

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    If you play with the setup you have I think you will find some very good sounds can be had. Your rig sounds like what I gigged with for about the last ten years until I quit the band. I have a DRRI and my primary dirt pedal was an OCD. I have used my SG, Gretsch hollow body, and Tele, but my primary guitar was my Strat. Like TheMindful said in his post I set mine around 4 on the volume, depending on the club, and it sounded great when the OCD was kicked in, but had nice enough clean at that volume as well with pedals off.

    I now just play over at my daughter's house with my son-in-law. Lately I've just turned the gain back on the OCD for general light dirt and stacked it with a Zen Drive or a Green Rhino for higher gain with good success. I'm not a metal player though, so what I call higher gain ain't what others call it.

    I've never played through one, but that Timmy pedal that StoogeSurfer recommended is supposed to be a top line drive that stacks well with other pedals.
     
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