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"Sleepwalk" substitutes....

Discussion in 'Tab, Tips, Theory and Technique' started by WickedGTR, Jul 28, 2006.

  1. WickedGTR

    WickedGTR Friend of Leo's

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    I'm talking those 4 'ice cream' chords... C , am, F, and G.

    (okay- I know it's C, am, fm, G)

    I've heard lot's of variations but never really learned too many.

    Wondering if anyone would care to share theirs?
     
  2. Chris S.

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    Here are a few.

    For the verse, where it normally goes:

    | C / / / / / | Am / / / / / | Fm / / / / / | G7 / / / / / | (all in 6/8, btw...) instead try

    | Am7 / / / / / | Em7 / / / / / | Dm7b5 / / / / / | G7b9 / / / / / | or even

    | E7#9b13 / / / / / | A7#9 / / / / / | Fm7 / / Bb7 / / | Dm7b5 / / G7b9 / / | which is definitely a little more "outside."

    On the bridge, where you have two bars of Fmaj followed by two bars of Fm, try substituting Bb13 for the Fm. And where it goes C - G7 - C, try a Db9 instead of the G7.

    These should earn you at least a couple of puzzled facial expressions from the bass player. ;-) See what you think. :) CS
     
  3. WickedGTR

    WickedGTR Friend of Leo's

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    E7#9b13

    Is that a chord or a vitamin?

    Thanks Chris- I'll try those---
     
  4. eddiewagner

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    oh boy, i wish i would know more about chords. the chords that chris suggests have such awful nameses, but in reality they may look easy to play. and i got no idea.......
    so kids, learn something while you are young!
     
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    Whilst I've always admired the technical aspect of that version, and there are some terrific ideas to steal in there for sure, I feel that Setzer misses the dreamy feeling I associate with Sleepwalk for most of that, it's too choppy (v. much IMHO). The recorded version is more like it. Actually, other than the original, I think Joe Satriani does a GREAT version of Sleepwalk, nothing like his usual widdly-diddly style, well worth a listen. It shows what a tasteful musician he can be. It's on the album 'Strange Beautiful Music' from 2002.
     
  7. WickedGTR

    WickedGTR Friend of Leo's

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    I agree- there's a plaintive, dreamy aspect to the original that makes it so great.
     
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    +1! It's one of those songs that says so much without any lyrics. The music and the title fit together perfectly.
     
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    here's a nice version-

    Hank

    trey
     
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    Hey, thanks for that link! Hank nailed the "vibe" and mood of that perfectly.
     
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    | Am9/G / / / / / | Am9/G / / / / / | Dm11(no5) / / / / / | Fadd9 / / G13 / / |

    7 5 3 1 x
    5 5 3 3 5
    5 4 5 2 4
    5 5 3 3 3
    x x 5 x x
    x x x x 3

    Nice lookin' Epiphone, too bad I can't hear it. :(
     
  14. moondoggie999

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    while searching around I found this online lesson from wolf marshalls site.. scroll down and it has some interesting ideas...

    http://wolfmarshall.com/rifflesson/MainWindow.asp?dir=/rustyc/rcarchive2/07-31-02

    and I have a question for everyone... what chords do you play for the bridge?
    cuz after the turnaround for the second verse where its playing C-F-C-C7
    I have played this for the bridge:
    F-F-Fm-Fm
    C-C-C-C7
    F-F-Fm-Fm
    G-Bb-G-G7

    I am not sure about the 2nd C in the second line, almost seems like it could be C6 and also the Bb in the fourth line could be G7#9.

    Appreciate hearing your ideas on this...
     
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    Yeah, the 2nd C chord should be a G7. The last line (G-Bb-G) is correct. Hope it helps, CS :)
     
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    That makes sense, thanks Chris!
     
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    You are a sick man, Chris.

    I'm gonna do it! Jazzabilly will kill me, but it's all good, clean fun.

    Maybe do the intro as xxx555 (Am), xxx987(Em), xxx10910(Dm7b5), xxx101210 (G7 - I can't think of an interesting triad for G7b9 that would provide enough contrast against my voicing of the Dm7b5)
     
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    wow -- i LOVE that'n! that G7b9 has a little bit of diminished mojo.

    i'll definitely steal this!
    (as Frank Zappa says: "The amateur borrows; the professional steals."
     
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    actually....


    the song DID have a "sung" version that was out shortly after the Santo & Johnny release....no one was more surprised than i was:...shock: .....do a Google search for the song and there are clips of the sung version done back in the 60's by a girl from Canada if memory serves me...anyway....TONS of info bout the song there...still one of my favorites to do after all these years....
     
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