Sign of the apocalypse: I played a solid-state amp that I liked

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  1. codamedia

    codamedia Poster Extraordinaire

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    If you plug an overdrive pedal into 3 tube amps it will sound different in all three.... so who has the authority to say which one sounds the best? I don't have any issues dialing in an overdrive pedal with any amp... but they are never set the same for each amp.

    If you are referring to how hard you can push the input of the amp that's a different story... but it's also not what you suggested ;).
     
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  2. mad dog

    mad dog Friend of Leo's

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    What is "better" or "best" in an amp depends entirely on personal taste, and on how the amp is to be used, for what purpose. Generalizations about SS vs tube can be helpful to some degree, but not nearly so much as trying out different amps, seeing what actually works for you.

    I was never exactly a tube amp snob, but always preferred them greatly to SS. Until I got into archtops, jazz guitars. And until I ran into some really good SS amps. Top of the heap for me these days, at least with the hollowbodies:

    - a 20 plus year old Evans 1x15 combo, the E150.
    - a DV Mark Micro 50 CMT head with 1x12 open back pine cab

    Yes, there are differences, SS to tube. If those differences favor the kind of tone and feel that please you, then you're not settling for anything playing SS ... you're making an informed choice.
     
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  3. J-bass&Tele

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    Great guitarist!
    Haha, I bet it's because of the skirt.
    (Even though it looks like a sweater tied around the waist. 80's fashion :eek:)

    Edit: On topic, my Vox Cambridge 15 and Fender Rumble 15 sounds so good in wet/dry or as a dual mono rig.
    If only Vox made a 50 watt/1x12 combo based on the Pathfinder/Cambridge...
     
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  4. MilwMark

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    Dammit the site was still open on my work computer and I can’t help myself. Just when I think I’m out, they pull me ...

    As @codamedia alludes - what is this “tube” sound some mention?

    I honestly sometimes wonder if some actually play guitar or just post here.

    JCM900? Twin? AC30? 5150? Old Silvertone? Because I read a lot of stuff before I started playing I plugged into a whole, whole bunch of odd old 50s and 60s combos. Because simple old tube amps were the “best.” Holy heck did they suck. Flat, bland, lifeless. No dynamics. No breakup. But “all tube!”

    If you can’t get superb, hair-raising, smile inducing, bursting-with-dynamics clean, crunch and edge sounds out of a JC40, you ain’t trying.

    @El Tele Lobo - congrats on opening your ears and mind. Don’t fear the onboard Distortion. It’s great. Hint - don’t be afraid to push the Mid knob to 3 o’clock or beyond. And as Distortion increases so does apparent Treble. Fortunately they provided an adjustable knob called ... “Treble”. Oh, and the Reverb is superb. I never even use the Chorus/Vibrsto on mine (even though it’s great).

    Collini ... Out!
     
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  5. cyclopean

    cyclopean Poster Extraordinaire

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    How is solid state “not the real thing”? Are we imagining them?

    Black Flag and The Cure both have great guitar tone and that’s largely solid state amps. Most of the Velvet Underground guitars are played through solid state.
     
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    Not an amp but I came across it in another forum and it can show how good SS can really be.

     
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  7. Mowgli

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    I don't know. I had friends who followed KC but I didn't. Sorry.
     
  8. Mowgli

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    I saw John Scofield, Mike Stern and Pat Metheny several times in the 80s and later. They were using Solid State amps (Sco - Roland JC, Stern - Yamaha, & Pat - Acoustic amp).

    Metheny said that the tube amps he played through always had some "hair" (often means subtle distortion) on the tone and he didn't want that sound. But I recall reading that he is/was using tube amps recently???
     
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  9. Dostradamas

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    Yamaha JX series and G series had some great clean sounds.

    I love my JX35
    should outlive me

    would love to find a clean G50 410 series 1
     
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    Vox Pathfinder 15R. "Poor man's Princeton"
    It came with a mediocre 8" speaker, but produces decent tone for small $.

    I've picked up a few for $50-$80 on Craigslist from time to time.

    That said, I primarily use a Super Champ, a Supro Blues King 8, for the living room, and a couple of Micro Cubes for travel and front porch picking.
     
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    True. For a while I have exclusively been playing Yamaha G series amps, since then I went back to tubes, then digital, then back to tubes and digital. In hindsight my G100ii-212 was the best Twin Reverb sound I could ask for. Also Peavey Bandit and Studio Pro are Great amps!
     
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    I just went the opposite way, lol, only ever had solid state since 1987, and later VST/Modelling on PC

    During covid bought what i always wanted, a proper tube amp, at 48, and know what ive been missing out on

    And one of the earliest amps i ever played was a JC-120...magical, they want mad money for them now...
     
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    I haven't had a solid state amp in my practice room in over 20 years. However, I recently purchased a Positive Grid Spark practice amp for as the name implies, practice. I have been pleasantly surprised by the crazy number of tones I can get out of this little thing. And run through an old 100 watt stereo receiver and a separated 2X12 cab (for stereo) the thing is even loud.
    Does this mean I'll be giving up my tube amps anytime soon? Please, that would be like giving up one of your kids after getting through the teenage years. I have too much invested in NOS tubes to just abandon them. And I'm sorry but the tone of a good tube amp at volume through good speakers just can't be beat!
    Just my $.02 worth (don't ask for change :cool:).
     
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    I have a modeller; I had a solid state before that. I've never owned a tube amp. I'll see myself to the door now...
     
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    I'm not going back to ss amps again, done it 6 times, enuff already.....ha, ha..
     
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    I prefer the extra cost and inconvenience of tube amps and vinyl :p
     
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    My only amp now is a JC-22.
     
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    ^ What he said...
     
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