Should I buy this oldish marshall combo?

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  1. Axegrinder77

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    Quick rundown... I play in a chili peppers cover band. I'm currently using a 68 custom Princeton reverb, with a celestion g10v speaker. It sounds good, especially after eq pedal removes some of that bass. It is loud enough because I like a little breakup. Then I push Frusciante style with distortion and fuzz.

    I can get this amp for $600 CAD, that's around $450 USD.

    It has a 12 inch celestion g12h made in the UK. It is 60 watts and I definitely noticed more balls on the clean channel than my Princeton.

    I'm thinking of maybe running both. Ironically, the marshall for the clean, and the fender for the breakup (can't really stay clean at gig levels).

    Anyways, I know very little about the amp, and it's hard to get to know an amp in 5 minutes in the music shop.

    Your thoughts?
     

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    Also, I think I prefer the crunch of my Princeton over the marshall. Is that a red flag?
     
  3. Stefanovich

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    600 seems a decent price. I like Marshall cleans a lot (at least of the Marshalls I have played) but should you get it? Only you can answer that question.

    If you do get it and regret it, I think you will get your money back out.
     
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    A lot of people online rag on the TSL, but I think it was Marshall’s best sounding amp since the Plexi. I bought the 100W combo version, and regret selling it. I some day want to replace it with that exact model you posted.

    Things to beware of (short list):

    1. The foot switches are known to crap out. I had mine replaced under warranty. I would spend the dough to purchase a backup and keep it in the gig kit, or else see if an amp guy can custom make you a higher quality one.

    2. Stay on top of your pre-amp tubes. The amp tends to work through them faster than most amps IME. Also, use quality tubes.

    3. The one semi-important design flaw: It’s not so easy to switch between clean and crunch, which are the two best channels on the amp. It requires stomping two footswitch buttons, or else you just set up your red channel with low gain to simulate the crunch channel. I tended to do this, and switch between green and red on songs that needed channel switching, while I would use the crunch channel on songs that didn’t need a channel switch mid-song.

    IMO, it would make an excellent amp for RHCP covers of all eras. No Princeton required, unless you want to have it on hand as a backup.

    Also: Make sure you use your half power switch! It’s perhaps the most useful feature on the amp. It has VLP (virtual low power) too, which can also be useful.
     
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    I’ve owned a TSL60 about 16-17 years ago, pretty good-warm Marshall tones, but too many knobs for me. I recall spending more time trying to find my tone than playing guitar.

    For good Marshall cleans, I would look for a Marshall Vintage Modern 2266C Combo. The best cleans on any Marshall that I’ve played.
     
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    What year was the TSL built?
     
  7. boredguy6060

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    Only you know if you need this amp, or any amp for that matter.
    However, this amp had something that grabbed your interest or you wouldn’t be asking others opinions.
    Personally, I think it’s a decent amp at a reasonable price and as mentioned by Stefanovich, you can probably get what you paid for it if you decide to sell it.
    So, go for it, what’s you got to lose?
     
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    I’d be looking at the new DSL40CR if spending in that region... with 6 button footswitch, it’s very versatile.

    I have my eye out for a vintage modern at a good price.
     
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    Buddy of mine had one..Issues..but it was early..I think maybe anniversary
    just saying.
     
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    VM is the Marshall that can do F & M very well. I record on both amps a lot . The VM can chime & do the M type clean. This is my live rig...it can be plexi..it can be clean..it can crunch. Matched with the g12c cab..very well rounded amp. kt66 goodness VMload in 6.19.jpg
     
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    Had a TSL 100 2x12 a few years ago I bought from new but it had reliability issues, went back to the factory twice under warranty with the same fault so I eventually got rid of it,but i know other people who have gigged them for years without any issues.
    Personally I would err on the side of caution and check if it's had any faults etc. before you buy.
    hope this helps.
     
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    I have a small, 20 watt Marshall, and love it for its clean sound.

    I love it when you overdrive it too, but I find the cleans very clean.
    marshall-avt20-8567.jpg


    Good luck.

    Mike
     
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    I liked that AVT series. The 50 in particular.
     
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    I like some of the small artists from the 80s
    and I think they had a small jcm800
     
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    Thanks everyone. I'm almost thinking it would be wise to spend a bit more and get a brand new dslcr 40. They have one on sale for $849 CAD.

    I will play them. Seems unlikely the new ones have a made in the UK celestion though, right?
     
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    Good decision.
     
  17. Monty58

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    They started building them in the late 90s or early 2000's.
     
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    I really like the JCM2000's (The main amp I used is the DSL401) but it's a little over priced price for me (XE says CAD 600 is £352) ,TSL601 are £200-£300 tops here. Although I know Marshalls are cheaper in the UK just because they are so common.

    If you like how it sounds though, I'd buy it. I've owned mine for 15 years now and it's been gigged and practiced almost every week for that time.
     
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    Some of the TSL's and DSL's have had pcb overheating issues. Do some reading up on which specific one you are getting into so that you don't end up with a big headache.

    The newer DSL's have digital reverb, if that matters to you. And DSL's do not sound like classic Marshalls.
     
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    This is why I asked. There was a runaway bias drift problem in certain years and so the specific manufacture year of a TSL (or a DSL of that era) is important info.
     
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