Should Clapton have really played a strat for this?
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I suppose with enough vibrato one would be in tune at least part of the time!
Seriously, I think the man sounds good on that cut.
deytookerjaabs
Friend of Leo's
Nah....
^^^^
One guy who gets it.
Ye Ole Clapton was a different animal. Turning your rig/playing closer to a cat playing sessions on Disney Films is not "evolution" IMO.
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One guy who gets it.
Ye Ole Clapton was a different animal. Turning your rig/playing closer to a cat playing sessions on Disney Films is not "evolution" IMO.
rand z
Friend of Leo's
Yep, there's some vibrato... on unbent notes
But I'm thinking that he used to bend notes... with vibrato at the top of the bend.
Ala Cream.
Find a bent note that he adds vibrato.
Like Freddie King:
At 4:13 Freddie is adding beautiful vibrato to bent notes at the top of the bend.
EC did it a lot in the early days.
I really don't hear it now.
Perhaps his hearing is not good; or, he's worried that his intonation will be shaky during the vibrato.
Whatever...
imo.
I didn't realize we were talking about different types of vibrato.
I thought it was just vibrato.
No offense meant, Rand z.
Maybe this has been mentioned before but didn't Clapton walk away from that intense playing from the Cream/Beano era because he was tired of the "guitar hero" thing and had discovered The Band's Music From The Big Pink (and later J.J. Cale)? It seems like that Band album marked a seismic shift in pop/rock music -- even George makes mention of The Band when introducing "All Things Must Pass" to his bandmates in the Get Back documentary.
Clapton is not one of my favourite musicians by a long shot, but I do enjoy some of his work (John Mayall, Cream, and solo) regardless of what guitar/amp he was using. While I don't necessarily agree with or respect some of his more recent statements/decisions/actions, I do respect that he did what he wanted to musically/artistically, even if it meant going against what he became famous for. He could have milked the "woman tone"/Gibson+Marshall thing for decades -- maybe some people would've preferred that? -- but if it was going against what he wanted to do and simply for money (which he didn't necessarily need more of), maybe his sense of musical/artistic integrity was more important.
I'm reminded of some of the more dismissive things some of my friends said about Robert Plant's work with Alison Krause vs. his rock/blues heyday. Granted, to each their own (and I do love his work with Zeppelin), but I admire and respect the fact that he did his own thing with Krause rather than milking the Zeppelin/hard rock thing just for money or popularity. (I also happen to love the Plant/Krause albums, but that's beside the point.)
Clapton is not one of my favourite musicians by a long shot, but I do enjoy some of his work (John Mayall, Cream, and solo) regardless of what guitar/amp he was using. While I don't necessarily agree with or respect some of his more recent statements/decisions/actions, I do respect that he did what he wanted to musically/artistically, even if it meant going against what he became famous for. He could have milked the "woman tone"/Gibson+Marshall thing for decades -- maybe some people would've preferred that? -- but if it was going against what he wanted to do and simply for money (which he didn't necessarily need more of), maybe his sense of musical/artistic integrity was more important.
I'm reminded of some of the more dismissive things some of my friends said about Robert Plant's work with Alison Krause vs. his rock/blues heyday. Granted, to each their own (and I do love his work with Zeppelin), but I admire and respect the fact that he did his own thing with Krause rather than milking the Zeppelin/hard rock thing just for money or popularity. (I also happen to love the Plant/Krause albums, but that's beside the point.)
Yeah, this struck me as odd. Went to college. Lived a middle and then upper-class life. Heroin addiction. Booze addiction. Kid fell out a window. Got rich and famous.
v.s.
Systemic racism. Risk of lynching. Crushing poverty. Many had siblings and offspring who died. Record profits stolen by promoters and labels. Songs stolen by white people, and/or "inspired" people like Clapton. Heroin addiction. Booze addiction. God forbid they tangled with Southern cops. If they were lucky, they got a little money during the Blues Revival, but many were already old by then.
I say eric clapton the guitarist, professional entertainer, gets to do what ever he wants to do as an artist. He is the Picasso of the blues inspired guitar,
Swirling Snow
Tele-Afflicted
That is a very, very broad brush you're painting with there. And I think you're confusing the old acoustic artists with the guys Clapton played with in the '60s. I met them too, and they were all well-heeled gentlemen. I think they would be quite insulted by your portrayal of them.
I was broad, as you were. I'm happy to debate specifics, if that's you're goal. Chances are pretty slim that you're going to convince very many people that Eric Clapton has had a tougher life than pretty much any black person in the USA.
Blackmore Fan
Friend of Leo's
I believe Fleetwood Mac was no longer Fleetwood Mac when Lindsey was no longer a member. Yes, I'm aware of the bands long history before him--I'm a Bob Welch fan too, but Lindsey was still alive and well and the band seemed to be pretending without him.
421JAM
Tele-Afflicted
That’s all beside the point. (though obviously untrue, because they called themselves Fleetwood Mac after Buckingham left and Mike Campbell stepped in.)
Clapton is by no stretch of the imagination the last man of his generation standing as an active musician. (Which you well know as a Blackmore Fan.)
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jwsamuel
Friend of Leo's
Read the backgrounds of those "well-heeled gentlemen" you are talking about. Read where they came from and how they got to where they were in the 1960s.
jwsamuel
Friend of Leo's
They were Fleetwood Mac long before Lindsey Buckingham or Bob Welch. Try Peter Green, perhaps. Oh, well.
jwsamuel
Friend of Leo's
As an artist, yes. When he opens his mouth, the ballgame changes.
jwsamuel
Friend of Leo's
He could have just played better notes. Miles Davis played the trumpet, which has no sustain. He always advocated fewer notes.
421JAM
Tele-Afflicted
Apparently accurate history = virtue signaling.
jwsamuel
Friend of Leo's
Why do you say virtue signaling? Is it because some of us object to the idea that a middle-class white kid in the UK had it worse than black people growing up in the 1930s in the rural US south?
