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Short Scale Tele! Could it be The Answer?

Discussion in 'Telecaster Discussion Forum' started by BluesHound, Jan 15, 2020.

  1. BluesHound

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    I have a problem with my hands, which seems to be getting worse with age. I’m ok playing lead, but chords are becoming increasingly difficult, especially anything requiring a bit of a stretch. I find my Gibson’s a bit easier due to the shorter scale length and decreased string tension. I haven’t tried a 24” scale Fender though and I was wondering if anyone with experience could tell me what the difference is like? I was thinking about getting a Squier Mustang to try and maybe fitting some Tele pickups. Would the lower string tension decrease the amount of ‘twang’? Anyone tried anything like this, or maybe done a short scale Tele build? Any input would be appreciated.

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  2. pdmartin

    pdmartin Tele-Meister

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    Put a capo at the first fret. Retune. Now you have approximately a 24” scale.
     
  3. boris bubbanov

    boris bubbanov Tele Axpert Ad Free Member

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    Another idea, would be little groups of 2-3 strings, to approximate a whole chord.

    Something about short scale, IMO sucks all the life out of Fender style guitars - especially Esquires and Teles.
     
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  4. RodeoTex

    RodeoTex Doctor of Teleocity

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    I'm encountering similar difficulties and pains the last few months.
    Someone posted this as a joke recently
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  5. monkeybanana

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    I love my Jaguar so I am biased but 24” is no big deal and the pickups sound great.

    I also tune down a whole step on some of my Teles. Great tone.
     
  6. Si G X

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    <<-- My main guitar there is 24" I love it. It's got a Squier Jagmaster II neck on it. It has a regular fender scale sister now that I've just finished putting together with a strat neck but I prefer the shorter scale. I think it's just what you get used to, I get a bit lost on the 25 1/2 sometimes because my hand naturally goes to the wrong place if you know what I mean. I guess the opposite would be true going the other way too. I don't really play 'twang' so I can't comment on that.
     
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  7. speranza

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    I believe some of Bill Frisell's Teles are 24.75" scale, and it works for him. Warmoth makes Tele necks in that scale that should drop in to a standard Tele body.
     
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  8. BluesHound

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    Interesting, when you put the shortie neck on, did you have to move the bridge?
     
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    I have the same problem as the OP. I tried the 24.75" scale and there was really no noticeable difference. It is tough getting old...my experience!
     
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  10. RoyBGood

    RoyBGood Doctor of Teleocity

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    Brian May's Red Special is 24'' scale and he has no problems tonewise. (Ok, I know he uses a treble booster).

    It's not clear from the OP that he owns or doesn't already own a Tele, but if he does, then a toploader bridge may be the answer; the slightly shorter string length (by not having to turn at 90 degrees and go through the body) could help.
     
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    With 24.75 is from Woman :D
     
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  13. Si G X

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    no, the neck is a conversion neck, the jagmaster has a few models from what I understand... the original jaguar 24" scale ones, then there was a Chinese made strat scale version, then there was the Jagmaster II which used the same body as the previous one but with a conversion neck.

    It's not a perfect match to a fender neck pocket and I had to modify it a little but thankfully there's a video on youtube of a guy who did the same thing to make a short scale strat.
     
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    This is the video that gave me the idea, it's nothing special but it gave me the idea of doing it to a tele/cabronita

     
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    to cut a long story short you have to cut 1/4 of an inch off the heel, which works out ok because then you have a little fretboard overhang to cover up anything that doesn't look perfect. ;)
     
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    Add me to the list of old men with arthritis in their hands. For me, the pain doesn't come from the scale length, but from the thickness of the neck profile. It's so much less painful to wrap my hands around a thin neck than a thick one these days. I had to buy two seriously skinny profile Musikraft necks for my Teles just so I can play them without pain. But the least painful guitar I have is my Squier Mini Strat. The neck is like a toy. If Squier made a nice Mini Tele, I would buy it.
     
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  17. oceanblue

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    I can tell you that both of my telecaster builds with Warnoth body and necks are short scale Gibson scale and I absolutely love them.
    In fact every guitar and bass I own now is short scale, and my hand tiredness and soreness disappeared.
     
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    Gibson Scale with 7's on it - dream to play. I'm older, no callouses. Easiest to play ever

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    I have tried 4 conversion necks. They are only minimally shorter for one thing. I just dislike the sound of low strings on a non 25.5 neck.
    Have you tried lighter strings? I still use 10-46 at age 72, but I replace the G string with an .015 to make bending easier. Sometimes the B string too. Gotta have the .010 on teh E though. I have noticed that larger low strings on my archtops make me tired and ache fast.... even though I dont stretch the E A D strings, they make your hands hurt just from fretting big strings like acoustic strings.
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