I didn't want to hijack the shaving thread, so I'll start one of my own. Seems like I'm coming back to my old "I don't care what other people think", and it also sort of dovetails into the manners conversation.... I HATE shaving. I don't cut myself, I don't need styptic pencils, I don't get any joy out of metrosexuality... I just hate shaving. And I don't really understand all the fuss over it. First of all, I'm married. So I'm not out their trying to look my best because I'm trying to pick up a woman. Second, I don't believe it shows bad manners not to be "groomed". I don't have body-odor and take preventative action. BO is offensive. A man without a clean shave is not offensive (much like my stance that wearing a hat in a restaurant is NOT offensive, yet some are offended by it). I'm much like one of the responders (I should credit, but I'm too damn lazy to look at the original thread). I let me stubble grow, and if I have to be out in front of important customers I'll take out the buzzer and buzz it down as evenly as I can. Half the time I look in the mirror on the way to my appointment and see a big spot I missed. My shaving or lack thereof has never cost me a sale... AND, I have nothing against those that relish shaving. (PS... I also HATE getting my haircut. I can seriously think of no bigger waste of an hour of my life.... I use the buzzer on my head as well). There. Take that.