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Discussion in 'Amp Central Station' started by BobbyZ, Oct 24, 2020.
Good Guys my a$$! I'd die if I received a bill for that.
Well I'll be dipped in horse manure!
That deja feeling was real.
Kinda like telling the same joke twice.
Something I've never done, that I can recall.
I'm blaming this particular snafu on smoke inhalation, from going into a burning building a while back to pull out some amps. Including a SFTR! That in light of these prices, seems like a very noble deed.
I know labor to repair is averaging $100.00 an hour today in Connecticut. That is what I have to charge today to cover rent, insurance, workmans compensation, utilities a lot of stuff to make about 20%.
For me when I got my 67 Super Reverb fixed by a really good tech about 12 years ago, it took like 2 months and not to my satisfaction. This is mainly why I joined a lot of forums, to learn about these amps.
Now overall, I work on my own amps and overall i’m pretty good fixing most problems as well as building everything from scratch. I save a lot of money, I learn and I really enjoy doing this as my hobby. Also, when I end up with too much stuff, I can sell it and either get my money back and in a lot of cases make a few bucks.
Wow CT, my hometown. Originally from Fairfield County then New Haven County. When I abandoned CT for the South in ‘13 most techs I was using at that time had raised their prices. Not cheap to operate there.
Even up here in the sticks if I got a building in town to do amp work I would have to charge a lot to cover expenses. Really isn't enough local demand for it so I'd have to diversify into more common repairs. In other words trying to fix modern crap!
Friend of mine does that in town now, can't really turn down anything that walks through the door. Unfortunately a lot of the time the fix is more than the amps worth. He lets the customer know and doesn't charge if it just goes in the dumpster. The cold hard reality is he should be charging a minimum bench fee, that would tick people off!
"Gonna cost $500 to fix your $400 piece of junk, here's your bill and ten bucks extra for disposal. Thank you and have a nice day." Lol
Used to do the old tube amps for him but he started doing them a few years ago, just to keep his sanity.
I've seen some later MV UL Twins listed around here with crazy asking prices, just because the seller put too much money in the amp doesn't make it worth more, but some folks don't get that.
The same ones that pay list for Tele / Strat etc and then expect to get that when they try to sell it later.
Prices on Twins, Super and Pro Reverb amps have gone up some but nothing like what people are getting for Princeton Reverb, Deluxe Reverb, Vibrolux Reverb and even old Champs.
$37.00 in parts and 800.00 labor? Where's my solder gun?
Back in the mid-late '80's the going rate in LOOT / Melody Marker musicians ads for a late '60's / early '70s SF Twin Reverb in central London was around £200. I bought & sold plenty of 'em, if I didn't have any club gigs lined up for a while I would put mine up for sale.
Most bands here use the rehearsal studio amps so unless you were playing club gigs regularly you really didn't need a TR in the house.
Bank of England inflation calculator says £540 in 2019, they go for double that & often over £1200-1300 if they are in VGC.
Im worried i may have board leakage.
Usually doubling up on the undergarments fixes that. No need to spend $800.
No sane person will buy that amp. And that shop ripped him off on the work, obviously. They could have just about built a new Twin Reverb for that.
That $800.00 doesn't seem like much after you have lifted the twin on to the bench.
I'd really like to hear more about the board leakage.
Those old eyelet boards can become conductive, but as far as I know the only thing to do about that is to replace it with a new one that isn't. And at that point you're halfway to a full rebuild, which they didn't do for $37 in parts. But I can't imagine what else they'd be talking about.
It's moot of course, that invoice is utter horse poop regardless the specific reason why...
OMG! I had the same repair on my SFTR. It cost me $100.00 to have it fixed. Caused by the tube pins sliding into the wrong position by a worn power tube socket. New power tube and grid resister did the trick. $800.00 bucks? Yikes! They smelled blood in the water I think. In California, they are supposed to give you an estimate before they do the work. It sounds like they don't have that law in Minnesota.
Them "good guys" must have fixed it with a hair drier.
Board leakage I assume means the board got conductive. Something that would happen to old Fenders probably from a lot of humidity. Something I've never seen in Minnesota because the air tends to be real dry during the 9 months of winter. Also seldom have issues with old carbon comp resisters, I assume for the same reason.
Then when one adds in the wax they started splattering on the boards in the 70s, it's pretty hard to believe that was an issue on this amp. And like @Drew617 said none of the $37 in parts wouldn't have addressed that issue anyway.
Furthermore that $37 in parts really didn't get this amp serviced to the point of anything you'd expect on that amp. All new electrolytic caps at a minimum would be more like it.
The poor fool that ends up with thing is going to be back at the techs fairly soon.
adding, that $37 in parts is more like, oh, $25, depending on what they wholesaled the jj for.