Seatbelts and school buses?

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  1. Allan Allan

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    Hey, we get it. You don't like buses and your kids went to private school. You can stop trolling up the thread now.
     
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    Okay, but, your assumptions of me are way wrong...
     
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    True. They appear to have better seating arrangement for safety and comfort than other busses and shuttles I use, and the safety record is outstanding. I've seen some with seat belts too. I've also worried about my kids and others on buses but you have to be picking other fights if you want to improve the well being of school kids.

    Very few kids are hurt or killed with this issue relative to others where it would be easier to effect change. We're pretty much 2 years from all new cars having AEB. That's probably going to save more kids. A lot of social institutions are change since my baby boomer youth. One of my 3 kids has been really into all sorts of programs at school. They're great. More kids doing that would probably save lives and improve safety.
     
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    I just tried to google the price of a brand new school bus. It was confusing. I can't imagine that it would cost much more than $3000 to put seat belts into a common bus. I think that busses should have belts.
     
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    I've seen them in newer school buses. Our neighborhood is in town and close to schools so we've always had oldest buses in the fleet. My kids have only been on the newer buses when they travel to a sport team or academic event.

    I'm sure you know how funding is in our state and the differences where we have some up north and nice neighborhood roots. Most of the funds-starved state can't afford much so people work against other things that can increase costs.

    It's probably more than $3000 if you look up what the newer bus seats look like but it seems worth it to me. It should also be state-wide too because I think of coming from a small town yet able to swim with the big fish at the big university. An image search of school bus seat belts will show what newer buses look like.
     
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    I too wonder why seatbelts aren't required. I do know back in my day sometimes the busses were full and no seat available sometimes... They have video in school busses now, but no seat belts?
     
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    Everyone wants to blame the schools and teacher for their unruly kids and their lack of parenting for sure. I can't imagine being a teacher now days. Cell phones should be checked in the locker for the day or not allowed.
     
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    $3k per bus (parts and labor) plus administrative cost = millions, liabilities = less millions...
     
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    I appreciate when people support teachers and public education, but I also have to say I observed too many teachers who didn't belong in a classroom, and WAY TOO MANY administrators who shouldn't be allowed near a school campus. Many teachers are there because (whether they admit it or not) the pay is pretty good for what you do, they like the schedule and generous time off, and they actually can't get a job in the "real world". In my years teaching, I knew and worked under some wonderful administrators, but there were many who were out and out bullies, sociopaths, and simply incompetent. Admin positions have largely "devolved" into political positions within the education hierarchy. I don't pretend to have an easy solution, because the problems involve parents and the home, society and our culture, and the school system itself.
    So.....I'm just gonna pick up my guitar and play.....just like yesterday......then I'll get on my knees and pray. ;)
     
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    That is not the schools fault tho...thats the politics of it,and generally schools are aimed at the middle of the pack which is where the vast majority of students lay. Which means they are right on target.....as there is always accomodations for the the more advanced and the lesser able.
     
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    Let them stand up in the front seat like I did. Most of us made it. Granted no one did 70 in a school zone like they do now. It is always about money. That is why music programs are being continually cut.
     
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    . . .for letting a 65-year-old ride the bus, maybe? :lol:
     
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    Bus drivers got to be a special breed. They take every kind of sass, have tremendous responsibility, work split shifts for pretty low pay. . . . Most of the time, in my experience, they are pretty special people when you get to know them.
     
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    That last line of your post... That would make a great song lyric!:p:D:lol:
     
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    I've been doing some work for a retirement village, paving and concrete repairs and such. It backs on to a primary school oval and when I hear the morning recess time siren I just want to pack up and go home, same again a short while later at lunch time. It's kind of cool hearing the kids scream and run around enjoying their break.

    The lunch siren usually does it and i'm on my way home.:)
     
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    Yeah , but on the other hand - $3000 ?! For a bunch of kids ?

    Who really cares ?
     
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    I think if you look at the numbers you'll find more kids killed by people not stopping when they're getting on the bus, than in one.
    (not saying seat belts aren't a good idea)
    If I had my why the fine for blowing a school bus stop sign would be $10,000, plus you loose your car forever and your driver's license for a year.
    Really is there any excuse for not seeing a big yellow bus with flashing lights?
     
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    This IMO used to make sense. But a few things have changed:

    These vehicles are traveling much faster now, in some cases, to keep pace with some pretty fast traffic;

    Trucks are bigger/heavier and are carrying more of the Nation's freight than they used to;

    Grandma Snell used to drive an Escort - now she has a Silverado or Denali. The vehicles that can strike a school bus are just larger/heavier than they used to be.

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    I'm wondering why buses don't have speed limiters on those without belts. Belts could work, but some students weigh 45 pounds while others weight 275. If you're using a bus to transport kids 110 miles to a ball game, and the prevailing speed on I-40 is 80-85 mph, maybe belts should be mandatory.
     
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    Waaaait a gotdang minute! Is this a discussion about public policy and why it isn’t enacted? Smells familiar but I can’t quite place the scent. Poly ticks?
     
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    No objections from me. I think--but am not positive--that in NJ, school buses are required to have seatbelts. But then again, we love our kids more than other states.;)
     
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