Seagull is dying

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  1. 3fngrs

    3fngrs Friend of Leo's

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    I've been trying to baby my Seagull along for quite a while now until I can get a really good acoustic but it isn't going to make it. I just had it looked at and the prognosis is poor. The neck is twisting and needs reset but even worse, the top is dead. The guy said I played it to death. I shouldn't have ever bought a guitar with a cedar top. I'm far to heavy handed.

    So, I guess I'll be needing another moderately priced guitar to beat on for the time being.

    I'm thinking maybe another Seagull but I'm open to suggestions.
     
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    What's wrong with a cedar top? Just curious. I have a 25 year old Takamine with a Cedar top. Never any issues
     
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    Same here with a 1999 Simon & Patrick SP6 - no issues yet with any aspect of it. Well, the cedar top does mark easily though!
     
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  4. 3fngrs

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    I think the cedar is too soft for someone who hits the strings the way I do. There's nothing wrong with a cedar top. It's just not suited for the way I play. The problem is me!:D
     
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    I thought this thread was going to be about Pirates of the Caribbean's ship

    The Dying Gull

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    Its not made of cedar, I think?
     
  7. getbent

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    pics?
     
  8. stormin1155

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    Since it is a bolt-on neck, a reset shouldn't be that costly. I've never heard of a guitar going dead from playing too much.

    As for replacement as recommendations, hard to beat Yamaha's FG700/800 series that can be had for under $300.
     
  9. DougM

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    I agree that cedar is too soft for heavy strummers. It doesn't have the dynamic range of spruce, and seems to choke when you hit it hard. It's better for fingerstyle.
    If you can afford it, IMO nothing beats a low end Martin.
     
  10. Milspec

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    Which model of Seagull are you playing? I happen to be a very big fan of Seagull guitars and have several, see no reason not to consider another Seagull. As for the cedar tops being too soft, I would fire that tech as it just sounds like he wanted to talk you out of working on that instrument. Seagull tops are all pressure tested and are actually slightly arched so they are not going to become lifeless no matter how hard your attack is. If you like a brighter tone, the Artist Cameo is a great guitar.
     
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    Not sure I understand what you mean by a "dead" top. Is the top physically damaged? The only time I've ever had an acoustic guitar go "dead" was when I've had the top braces come loose due to exposure to extreme heat and humidity (I live in Florida) or when the top was actually crushed by airline mishandling. Even if the top is salvageable, I suppose the cost of a neck reset would approach the expense of just buying a new one.

    The Godin guitars I've owned (Seagull and Simon & Patrick) have been good guitars, especially at their price point. I might also suggest that you check out Voyage-air guitars. I have one that I bought for travel because of its unique folding design, but I found I like it so much that I play it all the time. Great bang for the buck, and not just for travel.
    https://www.voyageairguitar.com/
     
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    Not true. Seagulls are set neck. The bolts only purpose are for clamping pressure during gluing. Go to 20:40.

     
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    I haven’t had time to read the thread yet, but I’ll say this - I love Seagull acoustic guitars. I don’t currently own one, but I’m always on the look out for them in the used market because you can find them cheap. The last one I had sounded as good as a well seasoned J45. Great guitars.
     
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    Look at some Taks. I don't remember the model, I'm at work at the moment. When I was looking to buy, I tried several Martins, Taylors, Tacomas, and others. The best sounding guitar to me was a Takamine for just under $500. Matter of fact I tried a Seagull for around that price, it sounded a little thin, but I really like their style. I compared the one I got to a $3000 dollar Martin. There was know way I was paying that anyhow.
     
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    The PRS angelus A50e is my next acoustic. I played one along side some lower end martins, and it held its own without issue. Phenomenal sound and playability. And less money too.
     
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    Actually, I'm reading this as a good news story.
    A moderately priced guitar got played.
    A Lot.
    That sounds pretty cool; much better than something that was too precious to leave the humidity-monitored shell or get passed over to a dear friend at a jam.
    Celebrate the life of this beloved instrument and get another one - similar or different.
    The play the heck out of that one, too.

    My .02

    Peace - Deeve
     
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    The top is dead! I have ears. Even my girlfriend can tell. I don't know why but it has no volume.

    The neck is twisted and needs reset. It's a $359 entourage. I didn't expect it to last forever.

    And I like Seagulls. I own two plus a LaPatrie.

    I don't want this to be a controversial thread. I'm just kicking around what I want to do.

    My thoughts are that I'll buy a moderately priced guitar to use until I buy a really good one. Then I'll donate the moderately priced one to the VA. And maybe a couple of others!
     
  18. 24 track

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    Have you contacted Godin about this ? I'm quite sure they would like to know about it, may even want to fix it for you.

    info@godinguitars.com
     
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    Agreed why change what works?
     
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    Just a suggestion. Sounds like it would be nice donor guitar if you know someone who is learning guitar repair and needs something to take apart and practice on.
     
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