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Science Fiction Gripe

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by unixfish, Nov 20, 2020.

  1. ping-ping-clicka

    ping-ping-clicka Friend of Leo's Ad Free Member

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  2. 68Telebass

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    Yes, it would!! That’s why here on Earth we rely on units of measure that relate to our physical experiences (and multiples of ten..hmmm. Human centric- the number of fingers we have :twisted:)

    To reduce stuff to the “granular” level of atoms and photons strips the very “feel” of things like length and time that we need to function. It does, however strip things down to the smallest, physical unit (of energy) that can exist- the Planck constant.

    An analogy is that a dollar is made up of 100 pennies. The “penny” is like the Planck unit of currency. You can only spend or count money in exact multiples of pennies.

    So, we have 10 fingers. Our number theory is based on that (base 10- 1, 10, 100, 1000...easy!, right???) now...how many fingers does God/Gaia/the Creator have???
    Answer- 2.718281....... or “e”, the natural logarithmic constant (an “irrational” number...) :confused:

    but that’s a whole other post...:eek:
     
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  3. thesamhill

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    Well, I suppose, but...

    At some point something happened and I was like, don't kill off the damn potatoes, I'm more emotionally invested in learning how to grow space potatoes than in whether Matt Damon lives.

    I want a Hollywood pendulum swing toward Bill Nye. Narrative as a vehicle for delivering interesting information.

    Edit: I realize that isn't counter to your point. I just meant that it didn't really work for me as a human interest story, regardless of whether based on real or fake science. I think there's enough human interest in sciencing the $#!t out of things that we could skip the big dramatic nonsense occasionally, lol
     
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  4. Ricky D.

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    Sorry, no.

    A light year is the distance light travels in a year. A year is commonly the time it takes the Earth to revolve around the sun one time.
     
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    Actually I think the quote should be: The willful suspension of disbelief"
     
  6. unixfish

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    That is kind of what I'm after. A new unit, call it a sublen, is defined as some constant of some constant. Maybe it will be close to a meter? Then, we have kilosublens, for long distances, millisublens, whatever. All based on 10.

    Time? Some other constant, with multiples of 10 (rather than 60 and 24). The problem then becomes a day may be 18.69 timelens, rather than a neat, divisible unit like we have now.
     
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    When you become the largest controlling faction in known space (The Federation) you get to dictate how things are done.
     
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    I have been a lifting gear engineer all my working life as my day job.
    some people use feet n inch..some metric...some wouldnt know a millimetre and a centimetre from a gas meter...nor crap from clay
    was lifting gear inspector and proof load tester for a local mine six weeks underground and suface gear every six months..for over 20 years.other times doing same on cable laying and trenching ships....other times in some filthy steelworks and the like...lots of travel involved...they usually asked for me personally ..some insisted or they would go elsewhere
    science plays a big part in it...calculations material specs and the like... i like to see things over engineered...bit like Isambard K Brunel in that regard...make it big and you wont break it...(they still manage)
    one job was doing the same for a Dark Matter research lab...a mile underground...in prev mentioned mine
    some of what they do is like sci fi stuff...they test all sorts down there before it gets flung towards mars too...and an astrobiology department looking for extremophiles that live in extreme saline...its a potash/salt/polyhalite mine
    Nil Desperandum
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    Love Star Trek. All of 'em. In the last season of Voyager currently, but by far Enterprise is my favorite. Great cast and I love the fact its the first humans venturing into the unknow of deep space. The first few seasons were fine, then it really took off...it's too bad it didn't get a few more seasons...would loved to have seen where it would have gone. BTW...Shran is one of the best alien characters....ever.
     
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    Brilliant. Just brilliant!
     
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    Gul Dukat...Brilliantly played by Marc Alaimo
    best tv villain in anything...sci fi or otherwise.
    is he a good guy ?..is he a bad guy?....
    A complex character with many facets...
     
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    Maybe our new numbering system should be hex? Most of my work is in hex; I cannot tell you how much time I have spent in a hex editor looking to break numerical patterns for clients.
     
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    Exaggerating a bit for effect, but still.
     
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    i tried explaining pre decimal currency to my daughter...
    UK went decimal in 1971
    she is as bright as they come...she is now a teacher...
    pounds shillings and pennies...all worked in muliples of 12...12 pennies made a shilling
    yet 20 shillings made a pound
    a guinea was 1 pound and 1 shilling
    5 shillings made a crown
    shilling...(a bob)
    2 shillings was a florin...(or 2 bob)
    2 shillings and sixpence was half a crown
    then we had the 10 shilling note..(10 bob)
    4 farthings made a penny
    then there was half pennies...(Ha,penny)
    3 penny bits...(thruppence)
    sixpenny bit...(tanner)
    she was cross eyed and bamboozled...even now she asks "how did they remember all that Dad?"
    we just did...she shook her head...saying it made her brain start to bubble
    the coins themselves...some were like manhole covers you could spend
     
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    any idiot with 1 braincell and all appendages can count in decimals....
    uk pre decimal currency makes astrophysics seem easy by comparison
     
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    truly is nice to find ones self in the company of such eternal optimists...
     
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    Why e an not pi? What's wrong with having 3.1415926535 fingers?
     
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    Once they figure out the boson time field things will change.
     
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    You may have already known this, but the French tried to replace many time-based measurements with decimal units after the Revolution: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decimal_time

    And before them, the Roman calendar had 10 months. Hence, Latin-derived month names that make no sense now.
     
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    Was watching TOS series the other day, the one with Ritchie Cunningham's little brother in the gigantic ball-shaped ship. In the space of 10 seconds Spock described it in both metric tonnage and miles... :cool:
     
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