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Science Fiction Gripe

Discussion in 'Bad Dog Cafe' started by unixfish, Nov 20, 2020.

  1. unixfish

    unixfish Doctor of Teleocity Silver Supporter

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    Like liking my own post. Cool.
     
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    If you're wondering how they eat, and breathe, and other science facts, Just repeat to yourself: "It's just a show, I should really just relax"
     
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    I always thought it was Funny.
     
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    Yeah, but in-depth analysis in how I relax.

    Yes, I know, I've heard it before...
     
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    Speed doesn't change, but it just doesn't get where it's trying to go.

    "I knew I shoulda taken that left turn at Aldebaran."
     
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    “It’s the ship that made the Kessel Run in less than twelve parsecs!" - Han Solo

    A parsec is a unit of length equal to about 3.3 light-years. Han Solo's quote is like saying I drove from NY to CA in 3000 miles. No kidding Han, but how long did it take? Hollywood writers. Sheesh.
     
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    The meter is strictly an earth measurement. originally defined in 1793 as one ten-millionth of the distance from the equator to the north pole along a great circle.

    the distance light travels in 1/299,792,458 of a second in a vacuum and other machinations are attempts to tie the unit to natural phenomena. no matter, it is still an earth based measurement

    I'm gonna go with the universal translator idea
     
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    They actually gave a reason for that one: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Chase_(Star_Trek:_The_Next_Generation)


    I always kind of wondered how they kept tractor beams working. It seems like the kind of thing that in real life would constantly fail or slow way down because it was always clogged, blocked, or ground down by all the space grit it was vacuuming up.
     
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    One recent attempt to explain that line is that Solo must have taken a remarkably dangerous shortcut. Do I buy it? Nah, people are taking Star Wars way more seriously than intended. ;)
     
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    YEP!!!
     
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    If Han Solo ever said that to me, I would say NOT!
     
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    Yeah, honestly, it's been a long time since I watched any of them but I do remember that one because I had the same question.

    I would love to see more sci fi like the Martian, though. I think they could get at least a one season show worth of material out of Packing for Mars
     
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    The Martian works as well as it does because the story is a human interest story based on sound engineering principles, not made up science.
     
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    We were going the right direction in the 11th Century with the astronomical hydromechanical clock developed in
    China, but a few centuries later we came up with a different obviously mundane concept in Europe and that pretty much defined our time conundrum of today. The Parsec is probably gonna hang around until TDPRI resolves this and develop another direction for the up coming centuries.
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    You would have to match its speed and direction to intercept it, so you could simply switch your engines off when nearby and you would continue on the same path to the outer solar system.
     
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    Yes, Yes...all fundamental units should be based on universal constants.
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    there are seven fundamental units that all others are derived from.
    Now the trick to strip any “Earth-Centric” hubris from these is to drill down (God, I hate this overused cliché!!) to the granular (God, I hate this overused cliché!!) quantization of said fundamentals...
    Voila!! I present the Planck Units (brought to you by the financially needy folks at Wikipedia!!:rolleyes:
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    That leaves amount of substance (SI= mole, 6.022^23 of something)- just reduce moles to the cardinal count of the substance...
    and luminosity...I don’t buy that as a fundamental unit, as it is derived from other fundamental units such as power, flux, etc etc.

    @unixfish !! Great brain teaser thread!! Just what I needed after a hell day at the clinic!!!:):)
     
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    My gripe is when I’m watching science fiction and find that they’ve put more effort into ‘realistic’ science than creating believable characters or dialogue.

    (Yes I am thinking of Interstellar. PhD level science and high-school level writing. And Matt Damon and Jessica Chastain know it too — I am sure they made The Martian as an apology to film fans. And yes the science in The Martian is pretty accurate, but as pointed out already it wins because it’s a great film - a smart story with good characters which treats its audience with respect. Likewise the best Star Trek episodes — Balance Of Terror, The Inner Light, Yesterday’s Enterprise, Darmok etc — and films — II, IV, VI, First Contact, Insurrection— are ones where the quality of the characterisation, plot development and dialogue - including humour - carry the episode or film regardless of hand-waving technobabble science.)
     
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    I work with the metric system every day and I can comprehend what it means. I have no idea about wavelengths and all the other stuff you talked about in the opening post. I think your idea would ruin peoples understanding of what’s going on. It’s like you’re trying to be the super brilliant person in a restaurant who just turns out to be the buzz kill at the table. Most reasonable people should be able to multiply and divide by 10.
     
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