School Me... Which Whisky?

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  1. ChubbyFingers

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    Phillistine!

    Repeat after me.

    There is no e in Scottish Whisky. Irish whiskey, yes, even that horrible stuff you Americans pretend is whiskey, yes. Scottish whisky, no.
     
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    PS Scotch did NOT start out as blends.

    Blends were developed by the Chivas Brothers amongst others to stop malt whisky going cloudy when water was added which was not from the same spring as the water used to make the whisky in the first place. Indeed, up until some point in the 1960s, I was told while living in Scotland, it was possible to buy bottled water from the same spring to add to your malt.

    According to the Scottish legal definitions, 'Blended Malt Scotch Whisky' means a blend of two or more single malt Scotch whiskies that have been distilled at more than one distillery; 'Blended Grain Scotch Whisky' means a blend of two or more single grain Scotch whiskies that have been distilled at more than one distillery; and 'Blended Scotch Whisky' means a blend of one or more single malt Scotch whiskies with one or more single grain Scotch whiskies. The regulations also allow the addition of caramel color, regardless of whether the final product is labeled as blended or not.[3][4] A mix of single malts only, without other types of whisky such as those made from grains other than malted barley, may be called a blended malt (formerly known as a vatted malt, a term no longer permitted).
     
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    It's mostly wrong.
     
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    I've had a lot of malts and my favourite is ...

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    A lot of love for Islay malts, too. If they are too strong for you, find out what the lassies are drinking.
     
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    Learning to love the bottom shelf means learning to cut through the static and focus on the actual qualities you prefer ( or dislike ) in a drink, rather than the words written *about* a drink.

    The bottom shelf is a low-risk educational resource and you might find a life-long love there too. It teaches you :)
     
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    Amen, & amen!
     
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    A good budget Scotch is Famous Grouse. Macallan is a great mild Scotch; Highland Park is smooth and gets to the smoky side of things.

    Not a fan of Johnny Walker or Dewar's. Turns out that Grouse is blended from Macallan & Highland Park mainly, so it wasn't a mystery why I like it.
     
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    Bam!

    I found this show on Scotch called On The Whisky Trail. I saw it years ago and am surprised it persists in long form on youtube.

     
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    Famous Grouse is the best selling scotch whisky [whisky to them] in Scotland, and has been for about 40 years.
     
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    If your tipple is going to just be a wee dram, go for single malts.

    If you're a session drinker, so for something cheaper.
     
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    A few whee drams of Famous Grouse is quite nice after a long, cold, damp day in the fields of heather.

     
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    love me the springbank.
     
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    I like to have a good couple of single malts in the cupboard and something for 'every day'. Are we going to do a Bourbon and Rye thread next?
     
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    How is "Chivas" pronounced over there?
     
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    It's a blend.
     
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    I attended a presentation by a Scottish fellow here in the state about 15-18 years ago and he stated that very few distilleries used spring water anymore and that most used treated water from a municipal source.

    I seem to recall that he pointed to Glenmorangie an The MacAllan as being two that still used spring water.

    Do you have knowledge whether that is accurate?
     
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    Chivas Regal is a blend made at the Strathisla distillery near Keith.

    The Chivas brothers were from Ellon which is a small town on the Ythan river about 20 miles north of Aberdeen.
     
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    Have you been to Scotland? I remember the tap water was peaty.
     
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    I think the finer distilleries still take their water from the springs and burns (streams or creeks) that they always did. I know Glenlivet still does.

    The more industrial brands might use local mains water, I don't know, but I don't think the pipes exist to take water up to the more remote distilleries.

    I lived in the Aberdeen area from April 1990 to September 2000 and again intermittently from August 2008 to September 2010.

    Western Aberdeen water comes from the Invercannie water works near Banchory ("Chateau Invercannie") and is naturally incredibly soft and clean - it comes straight off the granite Grampian mountains. A pal of mine was an electrician at the water works.
     
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    I remember going back to Aberdeen for the first time in 8 years in 2008 and getting off the plane I got hit by the horizontal rain. "Oh sh#t I'm back!" I thought.
     
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